Synergy to Synastry: Spiritual Business Ownership & Kundalini with Kir Grace (S2E14) Podcast Transcript

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Welcome

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Celebrating Season 2 of Synergy to Synastry

Christine: Renee, I want to start this episode off by wishing us a happy two year anniversary.

Renee: I know, two full years of podcasting.

Christine: I never thought this would be us, but I'm so proud of us.

Renee: Well, yeah, because when we first were coming up with our idea for the podcast, we're like, let's just try to do  episodes.

Renee: And then we blew that out of the water with the first season.

Renee: And then the second season, we're like, yeah, we'll be conservative again.

Renee: And we have then come up with bonus episodes and a bunch of two-parters.

Christine: It reminds me of how we've been entrepreneurs as well for two years.

Christine: Like it's almost like the podcast has ushered us into our entrepreneur era.

Christine: And I love that for us.

Renee: Absolutely.

Renee: Like I don't think I would have started my own business if it had not been for the podcast because we were meeting every single week in the beginning of  recording and editing and recording and editing, and of course doing collective readings.

Renee: And it got to a certain point where I just thought, you know what, I can do this myself.

Renee: I'm just going to go for it.

Renee: On that note, we wanted to kind of give this season a nice bookend and talk more about what it entails to own a business, create a business, especially in the spiritual space, which is the main subject matter of this podcast.

Renee: So we have brought in a special guest.

Renee: Christine, I'll turn it over to you for bio and introductions.

Christine: Yes.

Introducing Kir Grace

Christine: I'm so excited to have my two favorite Aries in the same virtual room today.

Christine: The other Aries you're asking about, her name is Kir Grace.

Christine: She is a Kundalini yoga teacher and frequency-first manifestation guide who helps sensitive creatives, spiritual entrepreneurs, and women with big dreams stop spiraling and start attracting through the power of their auric field.

Christine: She's been studying Kundalini yoga since  after a close encounter with a UFO that sparked her journey into ET communication and a lifelong fascination with the law of attraction and manifestation.

Christine: Her method blends Kundalini yoga and mantra, quantum inner child healing, and alien insight into how we create our 3D reality.

Christine: Whether you're calling in consistent income in your business, getting out of freeze mode and into flow, or ready for a total quantum leap, her philosophy stays the same.

Christine: Vibrate the cosmos and the cosmos will clear the way.

Christine: Kundalini yoga and chanting mantra is how you do that, period.

Christine: I love that intro.

Kir: Hearing you read it, I was like, oh, wow.

Christine: So badass.

Kir: Did I write that?

Kir: I totally forgot about it.

Kir: Thank you so much for having me, though.

Kir: I love you.

Kir: I'm excited.

Kir: I shared with you that I'm a little nervous, which is funny because you'd maybe be surprised by that, given that bold introduction, but.

How Christine and Kir Met

Christine: You, I think, are just such a special soul.

Christine: I can't wait for all of the wisdom for you to share with our audience.

Christine: This is helpful for spiritual entrepreneurs, female entrepreneurs, and entrepreneurs in general.

Christine: Building a business really is the next level in learning about yourself.

Christine: I've been working with Kir, I think since 2021.

Christine: I first had a reading with her to talk to my alien guides, which was so cool.

Christine: She went down this path of helping spiritual entrepreneurs, and I was like, oh my god, that's me.

Christine: And I have been drinking the Kool-Aid ever since then, and I'm obsessed.

Kir: You know, it's so funny, Christine, that you mentioned our first session together.

Kir: And please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm almost positive I said to you during that session, like, when are you going to be reading people?

Kir: Did I say that to you?

Christine: You did.

Christine: And I was like, oh, I'm so scared.

Kir: Yeah.

Renee: So was that before Nuurvana?

Christine: It was at the end of Nuurvana.

Christine: I think I was either going through my certification or completed my certification, and I was kind of like, okay, now what?

Christine: And then I met Kir, and Kir was like, I know what.

Kir's Spiritual Journey

Christine: Before we move on with the meat of the interview, Kir, I just want to give you a moment to tell us, in your words, how you became the spiritual solopreneur that you are today.

Kir: Well, I'm going to really condense this story.

Kir: The truth is, I've always been open to spirituality and really into new age and as a kid, just somehow into it.

Kir: I was actually greatly influenced by one of my aunts who helped raise me.

Kir: But still, I went through the motions.

Kir: I wasn't the best at school, but I did go to college.

Kir: And I tried really, really hard, believe it or not.

Kir: I tried so hard to do college.

Kir: And then my second semester, spring 2008, I saw a UFO.

Kir: I had never seen a UFO.

Kir: I, of course, believes in aliens and was open to spirits and angels and like psychic.

Kir: But having that experience, it's like it just shifted something major in my brain.

Kir: I didn't even realize it at the time.

Kir: Within one year, I was dropped out of college and studying Kundalini Yoga.

Kir: Not on my radar before that.

Kir: It was horrifying.

Kir: I thought I was just lost.

Kir: I was nannying, started to teach Kundalini Yoga.

Kir: I was very lucky to have a woman at a studio tell me, if you're going to be a yoga teacher, you got a personal brand.

Kir: I was 21, 22, so it got in my head, I have to do this.

Kir: No one's going to do any of this for me.

Kir: I don't have a degree.

Kir: I don't have family money.

Kir: I got to figure this out.

Kir: That is kind of entrepreneurship as a whole, figuring it out.

Kir: I'm 37 now.

Kir: I've done all different types of businesses.

Kir: That's the truth.

Kir: A girl's surf school, a nanny agency, just kept hitting this wall of like, do I really want to put all of my focus and energy into it?

Kir: And I'm sure both of you can relate that it takes so much.

Kir:  was my like, shit hit the fan, eat, pray, love kind of year.

Kir: Everything fell apart.

Kir: I just thought, you know what?

Kir: Let's go.

Kir: Let's go all in on my spiritual SHIT.

When the Universe Guides Your Career Path

Renee: So it sounds to me like you've had the entrepreneurial spirit which how you described it, I can definitely relate to that.

Renee: You have a lot of different ideas, you want to put something out there, you want to move forward, you want to, to create.

Renee: It seemed like the universe kept redirecting you.

Renee: It's like not this, not this, like you were on the right path in the premise of what you were doing, but not the actual subject matter.

Renee: Now that you have been sitting in this space, you've settled into your current subject matter.

Renee: Have you felt that kind of itch again to do something else, or do you just feel more at peace of this is the right thing for me to be doing?

Kir: That's a really good question.

Kir: I definitely feel good in a piece where I am, and I'm comparing that to something like I ran a girls' boutique surf school.

Kir: So it had started out as a girls' camp and then boutique  lessons and so on.

Kir: That was like five years.

Kir: I didn't end it because I wanted to.

Kir: I was afraid.

Kir: That's the honest truth.

Kir: I was afraid to put my face on the Internet and be like, yeah, I talked to aliens.

Kir: Everyone's going to project everything on to me.

Kir: I want to teach spirituality and 3D real world stuff, like money and money.

Kir: I don't know any woman who's like, yeah, I want to attract more money without pushing harder.

Kir: And I really believe that is possible with the quantum work.

Kir: And so that's kind of like where I'm really nailing in on now and I feel excited about it.

Renee: You just in answering that question, hit on multiple topics for season two episodes.

Kir: Fun.

Renee: Because we talked about quantum physics, quantum hypnosis, manifestation versus planning.

Renee: We very much have been working in season two on how do we teach about these spiritual modalities, but also make sure that they're fully embedded in that 3D human reality.

Renee: How can it be applied to my everyday life so that I can make adjustments and change?

Renee: So that's really been the vibe and intention behind this entire season.

Renee: So I love that you just put a bow on it without even knowing.

Christine: Renee and I, when we pick out what we're going to do for a season, we like sit down and meditate together.

Christine: And somehow like we both pick up on different things, but it's like everything we're supposed to pick up on for the podcast episodes.

Christine: And in November, we channeled the subjects that we were supposed to cover this season for the last episode.

Christine: I was like, we have to interview Kir.

Christine: Your response just like proved our theory about like why we do what we do, the way that we do it.

Christine: That's amazing.

Defining Spiritual Business Ownership

Christine: Which I feel like kind of guides us into our next question.

Christine: Do you find that there's a difference between being a business owner and a spiritual business owner?

Christine: Or do you think that they're actually the same thing just with different labels?

Kir: My brain goes to, well, what's spiritual anyway?

Kir: And that's just kind of my non-duality training.

Kir: You know, at its core, the yogic science and Kundalini, it's a non-dualistic path, it's neutrality.

Kir: I haven't really figured out who am I in relation to something pointing at it not spiritual.

Kir: Like how would that even work?

Kir: So that's kind of where my mind goes with that question initially.

Kir: But for like pity's sake, I would say women who gear towards selling their spiritual work probably have more sense of nervous systems, probably have a different orientation to reality than the everyday person who's not consciously interested in it.

Christine: Well, yeah, what is a spiritual business?

Christine: Like I think one of the biggest things that we've all learned in having our own business is you have to do what feels good to you.

Christine: And I think whether you are spiritual or not, or not consciously spiritual, quote unquote, that applies, right?

Christine: I think of like the CEO of Raising Canes who was like, I just want to sell chicken tenders.

Christine: And everyone was like, that's the dumbest idea ever.

Christine: And he's now a very successful chicken tender seller.

Christine: And that's what he does.

Christine: He loves chicken tenders and he sells them.

Christine: If you asked him, he wouldn't be like, oh, I'm spiritual.

Christine: But if we're analyzing it, we're like, oh, yeah, he followed his passion.

Christine: He came into this world to do what he loved, and he didn't listen to what anyone else said.

Christine: And he just did what felt good until it didn't, but it still feels good.

Christine: So he's doing it.

Christine: That's the same thing that we do.

Christine: And I love it.

Kir: Because it's all energy no matter what, right?

Kir: So no matter what kind of entrepreneur you are, you're kind of birthing something out of nothing.

Kir: And that is manifestation.

Kir: That's quantum, right?

Kir: They were always expanding.

Kir: There is no guarantee.

Kir: As scary as that is, I feel like entrepreneurs, it's a little exciting.

Renee: In my opinion, an entrepreneur is an entrepreneur, but a spiritual entrepreneur has the additional challenge of having to deal with stereotypes, people misperceiving their intention and what their business is.

Renee: We have to have different hats on to have language on our website or have a spiel that we tell someone when we're meeting them because we have to get ahead of the judgments that they're going to make so that they'd actually consider working with us.

Renee: And we have to remind them, we're just a regular entrepreneur.

Renee: We are just a person like you.

Renee: And so we have that extra lift on top of, it's a spiritual entrepreneur because of the work that we're doing.

Kir: I agree with you completely on that.

Kir: It almost feels like there's more of a contradiction.

Kir: Like I've definitely had to deal with a lot of my own fear and shame around coming out and saying, yeah, actually, I do know how to apply Kundalini yoga to help you make more money in your business.

Kir: Spiritual guru, blah, blah, blah, would really just prefer to burn me at the stage.

Kir: All of these projections, that's kind of where I like escape to my non-dualism, where it's like, nothing means anything, so I'm going to make money while we all spin around on the ball.

Kir: I don't know what to tell you, you know?

Renee: Spin around on the ball.

Renee: I love that.

Renee: It's hilarious.

Kir: Like no one's got it figured out.

Kir: You all ask good questions.

Christine: That's what we're here for.

Christine: We're big nerds over here, and we just needed a container to put it in, and that's what the podcast is.

Renee: In your response to, oh, well, what is spiritual?

Renee: We recently did an episode on etymology.

Renee: We didn't look spiritual up, but it's just funny that your mind went there because we just did an episode on that, and our minds go there too.

Renee: What does that word mean, and how does that change how you interact with it, or how you use it, or scheduling your time, etc.?/

Mantras versus Affirmations

Kir: I love etymology, and that's also one reason why I also love mantra.

Kir: One of my educational pieces of content about mantra is actually the etymology of it, and the difference between affirmation and mantra.

Kir: Affirmation, I am beautiful, I am rich, I am strong, I can do this.

Kir: It's still coming from either the positive or the negative mind, and it was created from contrast of D, right?

Kir: So you can only really get so far in elevation.

Kir: With mantra, it's a Sanskrit word, and it literally means mind control or mind projection.

Kir: And so the specific words hold specific patterns, and the vibrations of the mental body, and again, we're very much oriented in positive negative duality, this, that, yes, no.

Kir: The mantra actually strengthens the neutral mind.

Kir: It gives something that's orient at a higher vibration to focus on.

Staying Connected to Renee and Christine

Renee: Hey, listener, we know it's the finale, and you may be sad that you're gonna miss us because we're not gonna be popping up in your feed as often.

Renee: However, you can still stay in touch.

Christine: Great ways to stay in touch with us are booking a reading with us.

Christine: You'll get to see us face to face, and we can have conversations specifically about you and what you're going through and ways that we can help.

Christine: You can also follow us on Instagram, or Renee is on Bluesky, Christine is on Substack.

Christine: All of the links are in the show notes.

Christine: You can also buy us a coffee on buymeacoffee.com, and you can follow us there as well.

Christine: It's a cute little social media platform where we're housing all of the graphics for the podcast.

Christine: Renee, what else have I missed?

Christine: How else can our friends stay in touch with us?

Renee: You can also engage with us by sending us emails.

Renee: You can send in your questions.

Renee: If you would like to be read as a listener, in season three of the podcast, we can read you anonymously.

Renee: We can also do a write-in question if you don't want to be a guest.

Renee: We can still intuitively read into your question or provide consultation from the lens of astrology or human design or numerology.

Renee: Throw it in there.

Renee: Why not?

Renee: We've done it on the show before.

Renee: You can also send us any questions that you have about the content or suggested topics if there's something that you want us to cover.

Renee: Similarly, you can keep leaving us reviews and comments to engage with the content, submit questions there, share stories.

Christine: We won't be gone for too long though, so enjoy your holidays and we'll see you next season, season three in 2026.

Impostor Syndrome as an Entrepreneur

Christine: In the two years that I've been an entrepreneurial business owner, and Renee, I know you can relate because we have these conversations, we have these thoughts in our mind that we can't do something because X.

Christine: Or you're like, I can't compete with this guy.

Christine: How am I gonna make my business work when you have all of these thoughts telling you that you can't?

Christine: As a business owner, you do get stuck in your head, and something that helps you get out of your head are Kundalini mantras.

Christine: Let me put the two together and sort of help people get out of their mind.

Christine: Like, how did you come up with that?

Christine: Did you know it was gonna be so successful?

Christine: I, as one of your students, find it to be incredibly successful and something I never would have thought of on my own.

Kir: That makes me so happy, really.

Kir: Genuinely, I just started to get that same old anxiety loops that all entrepreneurs get.

Kir: My first launch ever, I did this Starseed School launch, which I actually think that you came into.

Kir: After that launch, I followed all the rules, I made the money, I did the strategy, I'm like, yeah, I'm so good at this.

Kir: And then my nervous system just fried.

Kir: How am I gonna move forward?

Kir: I was like, oh, well, what did you teach in Starseed School?

Kir: Oh, mantra and Kundalini.

Kir: Just figure out how to apply what you're teaching to what you want to be doing.

Kir: I just applied what I've been studying and doing, like literally do for myself.

Kir: And I always say this, and this is so important.

Kir: It's not that we never have those thoughts again.

Kir: It's not that we never freeze again or doubt ourselves again.

Kir: We develop a different relationship to that stream of thoughts because they hold a certain frequency.

Kir: When we use a technology like yoga, we start to adjust our entire systems to a different frequency.

Kir: Our relation to those thoughts just change.

Kir: They're not as strong.

Kir: They're not as real.

Kir: We're not being fooled anymore by the illusion so much because we have this tool that really is kind of breaking us out of the matrix of so much of our own doing.

Kir: Although it's not all personal because I do believe in like, there's a lot of fear, injection and infiltration and energies, whatever, but I really am about strengthen your aura, your mind, your field, and then see what happens, see how reality responds.

Kir: And it's always pretty amazing.

Empowerment & the Nervous System

Christine: It comes back to you living out your purpose or like why you're here on earth at this time.

Christine: You're following the next steps and it's amazing.

Christine: I find it to be super helpful.

Kir: It's so nice to hear that from the outside because I'm like anyone else.

Kir: I'm like anyone else.

Kir: I actually spend most of my time alone on my freaking computer, having kind of crazy thoughts, doubting myself.

Kir: But I've been told so much from the outside, it looks like I just keep going, keep creating, I keep moving, keep selling.

Kir: Only reason I can do that in any capacity is because of the Kundalini.

Kir: That is why I sell it, why I'm like really locking in now because it works.

Kir: It's so helpful.

Kir: Even if you're not a spiritual entrepreneur, I really have had this vision too.

Kir: I have a couple of clients who are cold calling and they're doing like Breath of Fire, you go eradicator before the call and getting more sales.

Kir: It translates to real life.

Renee: It sounds like on the bird's eye view here, and correct me if I'm interpreting this incorrectly, but it strikes me as the foundation of what you're trying to do is empower people.

Kir: I guess so.

Kir: I never really, do I empower people?

Christine: Yes, you empower people, but I feel like you more importantly teach people that they can empower themselves.

Kir: Yes.

Kir: Personally, when I think like empowerment, I think of like inspirational quotes.

Kir: That is not me at all.

Kir: Go on Pinterest, find your inspirational quotes.

Kir: I don't give a crap what they say.

Kir: You need to sit down, breathe, do the mantra, like tap into your connection with the cosmos.

Kir: I mean, it's very real.

Kir: It's funny, because it did all start with like, I created this like Starseed Survival School, and I was like, well, these sensitive women are running around, not realizing they're connected to the cosmos.

Kir: What do they need?

Kir: What did I teach in there?

Kir: Kundalini yoga, Kundalini mantra, little galactic origins, but I want the tools.

Kir: I like giving the tools.

Kir: Here's your life, here are your problems.

Kir: Do this, and it'll shift.

Kir: So that's empowering.

Renee: I think so.

Regulating Overwhelm with Kundalini

Renee: I think this actually kind of relates to one of the questions that we have.

Renee: People that are in corporate, as well as people that are entrepreneurs, naturally there's different forms of burnout that you can experience between both of them.

Renee: But do you have any patterns or things that you've observed or any tips, tricks, recommendations with the current tools that you're teaching or maybe just, again, patterns that you've seen for other people, cycles that they need to get out of?

Kir: Overwhelm, that fight flight in the nervous system.

Kir: And so I would say any advice, whether you are in corporate, in sales or, I don't know, med school or you're an entrepreneur, like whatever you're doing, if you are feeling that overwhelm in your body, you're not at your potential.

Kir: You're not where you deserve to be because external programming and past trauma, you're lost in a loop.

Kir: I think like a lack of presence comes back to the nervous system.

Kir: Regulate y'all's nervous system.

Kir: The best way to do that, it's pranayama, it's chanting mantra.

Kir: It's very quick, very effective.

Kir: I like sustainability.

Kir: I like the idea that it's a muscle you build.

Kir: You strengthen your nervous system.

Kir: It's strong, right?

Kir: It can navigate to the world.

Kir: It's not always going to be chilled.

Kir: It's not supposed to be.

Kir: You're not supposed to walk into the streets of New York City so chilled, you get hit by a bus.

Kir: You've got to have the ability to go in and out and have a center.

Nervous System Regulation

Renee: What does it mean when we're talking about a nervous system and regulating your nervous system?

Renee: Because there could be some people who are hearing what we're talking about and have no idea what we're talking about.

Kir: I'm really mad at this science-y type stuff.

Kir: Honestly, I am not the girl for the explanation.

Renee: I feel like what you said, it kind of gets at the core of it.

Renee: So, if for the listener, we are breaking down what is a nervous system, and there's different types, parasympathetic, sympathetic, et cetera, what we're getting at is the fight or flight or being calm and neutralized, which actually is a nice callback to our season one episode on anxiety versus intuition.

Renee: If your system, aka you, your body is activated, so maybe that's stress hormones and whatever else is happening within your body, we don't know off the dome the full science behind it.

Renee: But certain things are turned on and activated.

Renee: Somebody cut you off and you're like, oh gosh, you have the adrenaline going.

Renee: That is an activated nervous system.

Renee: And so in that moment, the person cut you off, you thought you were going to get in an accident, you can, as Kira was saying, choose how you're going to respond.

Renee: And one of those choices could be, I'm going to take a few deep breaths.

Renee: I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay.

Renee: That's technically a little mantra that we're telling ourselves.

Renee: We're doing a reset to get our...

Kir: Well, that's an affirmation.

Renee: An affirmation.

Renee: We are giving ourselves a pep talk to calm down, as well as breathing, looking around us checking.

Renee: So we're going to have some sort of a natural response to somebody cutting us off and almost getting in an accident while we're driving.

Renee: But the tools that we can pull from, such as mantra work, Kundalini work, any sort of energy work, in part is what we have talked about in different facets of this podcast from The Jump.

Renee: What's a tool that you can go to so that you can ground that chaotic ramped up energy because also on the health side, if you are constantly living in a state of stress and hypervigilance all the time, that does harm to your body and how it functions.

Renee: So hopefully that gives some context for the listener when we're talking about regulating your nervous system.

Renee: Not only is it helping with your mind and giving a clear mind and coming from a neutral place and making decisions, it's healthy for your body as well.

Renee: If we can live more and more of our life in the calm state, sounds good to me.

Kir: As you were talking, I was thinking like a few years ago, I was in Savasana Yoga.

Kir: My nervous system in my body, I was shown the projection of it into my work field.

Kir: It's the physical manifestation of the emotional body.

Kir: So if you think of like regulated emotions, the difference between feeling like you're on an emotional roller coaster, that's a dysregulated nervous system, to where is, oh, I have my emotions, I move through them, I hold them.

Resistance and Manifestation

Kir: When we feel that ping in the body, like that hike, that clenching in the body, that immediately projects into the grid of our auric field and creates, for lack of a better word, block.

Kir: I love Abraham Hicks.

Kir: You've already launched your desires out of the vortex.

Kir: You probably, like I always say, like you probably don't need to think much more about it.

Kir: The problem is there's so much resistance in your field, you're not able to receive it.

Kir: So resistance in the body, in the mind, dysregulation in the nervous system, that actually truly does affect your auric field's ability to attract and repel.

Kir: And it is designed to do that, divinely designed.

Kir: Every micro reaction, the more we can soothe it, we do receive more.

Kir: I mean, I really am about releasing resistance and receiving more.

Kir: I love receiving.

Christine: I just gave this advice to someone I did a reading on yesterday.

Christine: When you are in that in-between state, the universe knows what you want, but you haven't gotten it yet.

Christine: The best thing that you can do for yourself is experience joy.

Christine: Go do something you love.

Christine: Get into your flow state.

Christine: If you love your work, like the woman I read yesterday is a stylist.

Christine: And I was like, go to your studio, cut hair, work on some clients while you're waiting for the answer that you're waiting for.

Christine: And your vibration will just be so much more expansive than if you sat at home worrying about what could be.

Christine: If you're worrying about what could be, you're kind of like tightening everything up and you're not allowing room for the universe to kind of come in and blow your mind.

Christine: But allowing yourself to feel those higher vibrations, that's what lets the universe like blow your mind or give you what you wanted or more than what you wanted.

Kir: A yogic teaching is your strength is your response.

Kir: And if you consider that in manifestation terms, whatever we respond to reality, that's what we're going to be creating.

Kir: So yoga teaches us to have that space before the response.

Kir: And even circling back when I was talking about like a different relationship to the thoughts, it's because you're not responding to the thoughts in the same way.

Christine: I like when we talked about overwhelm, that you said when you're in overwhelm, you're not in the state you deserve.

Christine: Because I think a lot of times we say to ourselves, I'm not supposed to be overwhelmed.

Christine: I'm not supposed to be feeling like this.

Christine: And the truth is, it's not that you're not supposed to, it's that you don't deserve to.

Christine: You don't deserve to be forced to make a decision from that state.

Christine: And if you can take three minutes to do a little bit of breathing or running, whatever it is that calms your nervous system down, so that you can be in the space that you deserve to be to make the best decision, that's just like loving yourself.

Christine: How we respond becomes what we manifest.

Christine: You don't have to do this crazy full moon practice under the water in a forest with a knife ritual, whatever.

Renee: A knife!

Kir: A knife!

Kir: Are we sacrificing?

Kir: I mean, it sounds fun, Christine.

Kir: I don't know.

Christine: I've been watching way too much Yellow Jackets.

Christine: Maybe we should take that on.

Kir: No, leave it in.

Christine: Oh my God.

Christine: But it's true.

Christine: It's like you don't have to make it so complicated and so ancient and something that we've lost to time that we don't understand.

Christine: I'm sorry.

Christine: I keep thinking about the knife thing.

Kir: What actually creates a reality?

Kir: Is it one major ritual or is it the micro moments every day?

Kir: How we respond to our own thoughts, to the people in our lives, to spilling the coffee, to the annoying driver.

Kir: That is what is creating our future day-to-day reality.

Kir: People think of this quantum leap as like, oh my God, all of a sudden, I'm a millionaire on a beach, blah, blah, blah.

Kir: Do I think anything can happen?

Kir: Absolutely.

Kir: But for most of us, we've got karma, we've got this, that, that we've got to figure out.

Kir: Those little aligned actions, those little responses, that little adjustment in the frequency in which I respond to my reality, it will spit out a different reality.

Kir: Then the steps that I take are different as well.

Self-Care as an Entrepreneur

Renee: We've talked this season, and I know it is a driver for me in my business.

Renee: We can come up with so many things to do and to get done.

Renee: You know what?

Renee: If we follow our inspiration, maybe that can help us set our priorities.

Renee: It also helps with the nervous system regulation, like a lot of what we've talked about.

Renee: Follow what's inspiring you.

Renee: You take a break, do something that you enjoy.

Renee: Really, what we're getting at is how we are incorporating self-care.

Renee: And while we may be flexible on the cute, we are not flexible on self-care.

Renee: It is a top priority, especially as entrepreneurs and former, you know, corporate people who experience burnout in all different fashions.

Renee: What are some ways that you, as an entrepreneur, as an individual, lean into self-care?

Kir: For me, self-care, one, is my own Kundalini practice, of course.

Kir: I was taught right at the get-go, your teaching is nothing without your own practice.

Kir: I think my own practice, my aura speaks more than my own words.

Kir: So I just really believe that.

Kir: I also love hot baths.

Kir: The truth is, I've always lived this, like, part-time working life.

Kir: No matter what, I've always, like, prioritized that.

Kir: So my self-care is enjoying my day-to-day life.

Kir: The sun's coming out, I'm gonna walk outside.

Kir: I like to draw, I like art, I like creating.

Kir: I haven't done that in a while.

Kir: I'm gonna do that.

Kir: My flow is self-care.

Kir: And then I also have a membership at my favorite yoga studio, and it's like a monthly membership at the Truth of Shore.

Kir: I get unlimited yoga per month for, like, $100 a month, and I walk there, I go all the time.

Kir: I love Kundalini, but that's, like, the most, quote-unquote, intense yoga, and it doesn't all have to be intense.

Kir: I only like yin, restorative, lay me down, stretch me out.

Kir: Yeah.

Christine: Put me under blankets.

Christine: I would love to take a nap for 45 minutes.

Kir: Put me in a pigeon pose for 10 minutes.

Kir: Please tell me to breathe.

Renee: Oh, I love a pigeon pose.

Renee: We did a yoga episode in our first season, and that was one that I brought up because I'm like, I love pigeon pose.

Renee: Sometimes it hurts or you feel that it's tight, but you're like, oh, this is so good for me.

Renee: Like, you know it.

Renee: It's like you can feel how good it is for you when you're doing it.

Renee: You feel like a new person when you stand up afterwards.

Kir: Oh, I love it so much.

Christine: This conversation makes me want to remind our listeners that self-care is productive.

Christine: I feel like a lot of the things we talked about, like a bath, a nap, a yoga class, drawing as an adult, like sitting down to be creative, are things that we talk ourselves out of because we're like, oh, they're not important.

Christine: They're not productive.

Christine: But I highly suggest you try it because after you color for 10, 15 minutes, you're making decisions from the place you deserve to make decisions from.

Christine: I'm going to quote you for the rest of my life.

Christine: A lot of the tidbits that Kir has spoken about are good, not just for entrepreneurs or spiritual entrepreneurs, but for living your everyday life.

Christine: Entrepreneurs, if nothing, are trying to live a life that they love.

Christine: Why else would somebody go out on the adventure of learning how to work for themselves, if not to live the life that they love?

Christine: We do have one fun bonus question that I just really need to hear your answer on.

Christine: Are you ready for it?

Kir: Do I have a choice?

Kir: Yes.

Renee: She's here, Christine, what's the question?

Christine: We do have a choice.

Reconnecting with Passed Loved Ones

Christine: The question that I have is if you could spend the day with any being from any point in time or space, who would it be and what would you guys do?

Kir: Okay, I do love this question.

Kir: My dog Penelope, she passed away a little over a year ago and I would just love to go to the beach with her.

Kir: I really would.

Kir: I also think of my dear friend who painted this.

Kir: It's a big mural behind me.

Kir: This was actually on the wall of a studio and she passed away in .

Kir: That was one of my crash out, eat, pray, love moments.

Kir: Looking at this every day, it's like, just live your life.

Christine: It looks like swan crane, like the bird is talking to you as you're talking, almost as if your friend is coming through.

Kir: I'm getting goosebumps.

Kir: I know you're both medium.

Kir: It's a big deal.

Kir: She's a big part of why I'm even doing what I'm doing, essentially, that bravery, trigger warning (death & suicide).

Kir: She took her own life, sort of added that dynamic of like, whoa.

Kir: And I was in a state of bad relationship, depression in the guck of it.

Kir: It was a wake up call.

Kir: Not that that needs to be our wake up call, but life is precious.

Kir: It is fleeting.

Kir: I think at the end of the day, I would just love for women to understand that there's a lot more magic and power out there than we could really even imagine that we do have access to right here right now.

Kir: Doesn't that be long ritual in the woods of the knife or whatever, you know?

Renee: I love how that's becoming the new shorthand.

Christine: Life is short, you know?

Kir: Life is short.

Christine: Kara, I'm so sorry about your friend.

Kir: Oh, thank you.

Christine: I really feel like she's with you in that mural.

Christine: I can't stop.

Christine: I don't know if you see it too, Renee.

Renee: As we're talking about her, it just feels like she's enjoying the fact that there is, I just keep seeing like sparkles radiating like there's an impact and the fact that she is woven into your story in a way that it's like she, through you, is also having the impact in all of the people that you're helping with your work.

Renee: I'm getting chills as I'm saying this.

Renee: It's her memory, even if you're not walking around telling all of your clients and students and everyone that you're working with, about her, through your actions and through the work that you're doing because she is part of the foundation of that, that she gets to live through all of those experiences too.

Renee: Okay, this is making me want to cry.

Renee: So I feel.

Kir: Oh, well, thanks for that.

Kir: You know, I'm pretty clairvoyant myself.

Kir: And one of the last times I had with her, she was an artist and trying to figure out how to entrepreneur.

Kir: I remember like hearing her struggle with like, I don't know how I'm gonna make money.

Kir: I don't know how I'm gonna pay off my debt, blah, blah, blah.

Kir: And that's not, of course, it's not why someone chooses to leave.

Kir: That's not what I'm saying at all.

Kir: I think it's really okay for spiritual women to like want money.

Kir: What I teach can help people who are afraid, they don't know what they're going to do, or just who have want to have fun and make money and live their lives and surf and play.

Renee: We might as well have fun while we can and save some of that serious stuff for later.

Kir: Yes.

Kir: When we die.

Renee: If we're always in the high stress, hypervigilance, we can't be in the present.

Renee: What I am hearing and you're reinforcing in this conversation today is how much healing there is in the present moment.

Kir: Fun, not being ashamed for our desires, our wants.

Kir: They can change, they can shift.

Kir: It means nothing about you.

Kir: You're here to figure it out and play and create.

Kir: Anyone who says anything different, you shouldn't be doing this.

Kir: You're not spiritual if you want this, this and that.

Kir: Forget it.

Kir: Live your life.

Kir: Raise your vibration, strengthen your aura, chant mantra and receive.

Christine: A beautiful way to end as well.

Working with Kir Grace

Renee: If people want to work with you, we're going to include all the details in the show notes, but why don't you break down what you're currently offering, where they can find you on the interwebs or in person.

Kir: Cool.

Kir: You can find me at kirgrace.com.

Kir: There's links to everything there.

Kir: I love Instagram, so I'm @XOKirGrace.

Kir: My signature offer is called Hot Girl Aura.

Kir: It is a Kundalini Yoga based manifestation method to strengthen the nervous system and magnetize overflow in  minutes a day.

Kir: Whenever you find me, I will have something for you.

Kir: That's the reality of it.

Kir: That's the truth of it.

Kir: I'm also located in Asbury Park, New Jersey, and I do events at the Jersey Shore.

Kir: I also have a podcast.

Kir: It's called The Cosmic Tea.

Kir: It's unhinged, but there are guided meditations on there, if you scroll to the earlier ones.

Christine: We'll link that in the show notes for the listener.

Christine: If you're listening to our podcast, I'm assuming you like real talk from people who kind of let their stream of consciousness go.

Christine: And that is Kir.

Christine: So definitely give her podcast a listen as well.

Christine: It's a nice compliment to this.

Kir: Thank you.

Kir: Thank you so much.

Dreams Segment

Christine: I don't know the name of them off the top of my head, but you know where it's like row, row, row, your boat.

Renee: Do a row.

Christine: Yeah.

Renee: Oh, I love a round.

Christine: Me too.

Christine: It'll be like dreams, dreams, dreams, dreams, dreams.

Renee: Tell us about your dreams.

Renee: What dream did you have this week?

Renee: I want to know your dream.

Christine: Yes.

Christine: Oh my God, yeah.

Christine: I love this so much.

Renee: Okay.

Renee: Okay.

Renee: Christine, tell me about your dream.

Christine: So I feel like the dreams I've been having lately are less about symbolism and more about things coming up in my life.

Christine: I was dreaming about my high school reunion.

Christine: I'm still waffling on whether or not I want to go.

Christine: I paid the money.

Christine: I looked at how I'm going to get there.

Christine: It's like a bit of a commute.

Christine: But part of me is like, is this worth my time?

Christine: Lo and behold, spirit was like, let us tell you in your dreams.

Christine: In my dream, I went to my high school reunion, and it was like the exact schedule they gave us.

Christine: You know, we're going to be touring the school, and then we're going to a bar and whatever.

Christine: In my dream, I saw who was going to be there, and I kept finding like nostalgic items from high school and memories, and my best friend was there the whole time, and I left the event feeling very neutral.

Christine: So there was no like, oh, I'm so glad I went, and there was no, oh, I'm so pissed that I went.

Christine: It was just like a neutral feeling.

Christine: Like if I feel like going, go, but it's not gonna make or break.

Christine: So I really am thankful to Spirit for sending me that message.

Christine: I think this and one of the last streams I had are just about putting me at ease about what's coming up.

Christine: I'll keep you guys posted in season three, what actually happens.

Christine: Find out, does Christine get a job?

Christine: Does she attend her high school reunion?

Christine: Dun-dun-dun.

Christine: Doing it for the plot.

Renee: It sounds a lot like what comes up in psychic readings when someone needs help with making a decision.

Renee: What we're doing is reading into your energy and applying it to each of those scenarios.

Renee: So what you were seeing is, what's your energy?

Renee: And the takeaway was, take it or leave it.

Renee: You could go, you could not go.

Renee: And what I always like to tell people with the decision-making readings is, I'm picking up on your energy in each of those scenarios, but regardless of what I say, it's either what is true or it's how you are feeling about those situations right now.

Renee: And you have to still make the choice yourself.

Renee: You actually found a side benefit, which is, well, you know what, I don't have to worry about it because whether I go or whether I don't go, my intuition will tell me when it's time for me to officially RSVP.

Renee: And that was like door number three of it doesn't matter.

Renee: And you can actually get piece from that where somebody else for a certain topic might be annoyed because they want an answer, yes or no.

Renee: And life doesn't always work like that.

Christine: I'm so glad you pointed that out.

Christine: And maybe that explains why I was so tired when I woke up because I was working in my sleep, reading myself, but that makes so much sense.

Christine: And now I wonder too for the listener out there, if you have dreams like this, you're probably reading yourself as well and you're just not conditioned to it, so you're not picking it up.

Christine: I'm conditioned to it and Renee picked it up for me.

Christine: Very cool, very, very cool.

Christine: Okay, tell us yours because I'm reading the notes and I need to hear everything.

Renee: It seemed like I was in a store, so some sort of a retail setting.

Renee: Somebody's relative shows up and I was recognizing in how people were talking that they believed something was true that was not true.

Renee: So I'm observing the other people reacting to this situation.

Renee: And I was in the scene observing other people.

Renee: So we have been told that this person arriving was a parent, but what happened was she didn't actually have a baby.

Renee: She had a bat, as in the creature, a bat, and it was in a cubby sleeping.

Renee: And there were a few men that were there, other people that were there like, oh, I want to go see it, I want to pet it.

Renee: So they were all convinced this woman had become a parent, but she didn't have a baby, she had a bat.

Renee: I'm in it going, why are people doing this?

Renee: So here's what I was able to come up with for the interpretations.

Renee: Observing a delusion.

Renee: I'm witnessing other people believing something that is not true.

Renee: Questioning their unquestioned loyalty.

Renee: So this could be applying to real world situations, it could be applying.

Renee: These were random made up people.

Renee: If this was somebody that you knew, you could be questioning their judgment or loyalty to something, an idea or a person.

Renee: Seeing a parent.

Renee: So not your parent, but just knowing that there is someone who is a parent, you're not the parent.

Renee: A parent being in your dream can symbolize seeking stability in your home life.

Renee: And bats.

Renee: I was so surprised to see this when I looked up the definition of bats.

Renee: Bats represent the womb, rebirth, and spiritual guidance.

Renee: And I was like, whoa, okay, so this isn't a symbol for spiritual development, intuition as the baby bat.

Renee: This woman had pretend birth.

Renee: My interpretation was that I'm witnessing social instability externally.

Renee: Things around me not working, flowing, and that simultaneously I am desiring stability in my life.

Renee: The reason I think the home life piece makes sense is I got a lot of messes.

Renee: I have things physically to clean up, sense of disorder, work-life balance.

Renee: I know when this dream happened, I was especially busy.

Renee: Like I had a super, super busy week, the busiest of that month.

Renee: I was thinking that this bat appearing in the dream is a sign that rebirth and spiritual growth is on the way.

Renee: So it could be that it's coming for the collective because everyone's like, I want to pet the bat, which is the spiritual awakening and rebirth.

Renee: And it also could be the acknowledgement that because I'm seeing that isn't a baby, that is a bat in connection with the intuition and spiritual, I'm seeing the truth.

Renee: I'm seeing through the delusion, even if others are not.

Renee: Isn't this somehow, like a dream that you would just fly right past, it does not seem significant.

Renee: And the second I started analyzing it, I was like, whoa, this is super meta symbolic.

Christine: You took the words right out of my mouth.

Christine: And this is why I love symbology so much, because as soon as you tied the bat into it and what the bat represents, I was like, this is wild.

Christine: It makes me wonder if dreams were designed as a way for us to speak with the other side or another dimension or et cetera, because the symbols that have been passed on still have the same meaning and are still relevant.

Christine: I don't know, the whole thing is amazing.

Christine: And what a dream to end the season on, because my mind is like blown.

Renee: I have to tell you, I was looking through some different weeks of dreams, and I noted this one down.

Renee: I was like, I'll keep looking.

Renee: And I got a really strong stop looking.

Renee: It's that one.

Renee: And I was like, okay, I wonder why it's so important that I tell this dream in this episode.

Renee: And I think we'll have a better understanding when it airs.

Christine: Oh, I love that.

Christine: This is spicy.

Renee: I know.

Kir Grace Leads a Mudra Meditation

Renee: In lieu of our collective readings, we are returning to our special guest, Kir, who is going to lead a brief meditation practice to close out this season, which has been very busy, very practical, on a note that can help you call your energy back and keep moving forward in whatever is calling you.

Renee: Kir, I will turn over the mic, take it away.

Kir: Thank you, whoever is listening, wherever you are, whatever you're doing, if you have a seat, take it, whether you're on a chair, whether you're on the ground, doesn't really matter.

Kir: But I want you to find a long spine, slight tuck of the chin, rolling the shoulders up, back, and down.

Kir: Palms face up, resting on the knees or the thighs.

Kir: Joining your index finger and your thumb, the tips of those fingers together.

Kir: Now you're in Gyan Mudra.

Kir: I'm going to be introducing you to a mantra, Sat Nam.

Kir: Sat Nam essentially means truth is your essence.

Kir: Beyond the fluctuations of the mind, the to-do lists, the identities, mother, CEO, employee, partner, this, that.

Kir: You have one truth and this truth vibrates at a frequency far beyond all the attachments.

Kir: I'm going to guide you through some really beautiful big breaths.

Kir: When I say inhale, you're going to mentally, in your mind, chant Sat.

Kir: And on the exhale, in your mind, you're going to chant Nam.

Kir: This gives your thought frequencies a different orientation.

Kir: Not negative, not positive, neutral, high vibration.

Kir: When we do this, I also want you to focus at your third eye.

Kir: Fingertips, index finger and thumb, pressing together, taking a deep inhale through your nose, mentally chanting Sat.

Kir: Inhale.

Kir: And out the nose, slowly exhale in your mind, Nam.

Kir: Middle finger and thumb pressing together now.

Kir: Inhale through the nose, mentally chant, Sat.

Kir: And exhale, Nam.

Kir: Ring finger and thumb.

Kir: Inhale through the nose, you know what to do, deep inhale, elongate the Sat, and exhale, Nam.

Kir: Focusing at that third eye.

Kir: Pinky finger and thumb pressing together, deep inhale.

Kir: And exhale.

Kir: Back to a ring finger, deep inhale, side, and exhale, naa.

Kir: Middle finger and thumb pressing the fingertips, deep inhale through your nose, inhale, and exhale naa.

Kir: Index finger and thumb pressing together, deep inhale.

Kir: And exhale.

Kir: Bringing the hands together at the heart, pressing in and up at the sternum.

Kir: Every time we create a mudra, like our hands together, our fingertips, or pressing in at the heart, we're connecting energy channels.

Kir: We're going to do one out loud, long Sat Naam.

Kir: I'm going to guide you through an inhale, and on the exhale, we're gonna chant Sat Naam.

Kir: Let your voice speak, chant from your solar plexus, and this also tones the vagus nerve, which puts you in that softer receptivity state with your nervous system and your auric field.

Kir: Deep inhale.

Kir: Inhale, hold this in breath, but not if you're pregnant, not if you're on your period.

Kir: And release, release the hands, release the breath, fully release.

Kir: Focus at the third eye.

Kir: Soft, natural breath.

Kir: Inhale, sat.

Kir: Exhale, na.

Kir: Vibrate the Cosmos, and the Cosmos will always, always organize the path.

Kir: Waheguru, thank you.

Christine: That was so amazing.

Renee: I feel like I just took a nap.

Renee: No, that was a really great reset.

Kir: It's cool, right?

Kir: And it's quick, so we just utilized multiple different aspects of yogic science, mudra, pranayama and mantra.

Christine: For the listener, I highly suggest you bookmark this episode.

Christine: And I feel like at some point, you'll just have it memorized.

Christine: But until then, listen to this whenever you need a mid-day reset.

Christine: Thanks for listening.

Christine: If you'd like to learn more, the resources we used to prepare for this episode are listed in the show notes.

Renee: If you're curious to develop your intuition, we've partnered with the Nuurvana Be Light program to give our listeners a $500 discount on tuition fees.

Renee: Email us for more details and we'll connect you with the founder, Deganit Nuur.

Christine: Want to connect with us?

Christine: You can reach me, Christine, @ChanneledbyChristine with one L on Instagram.

Renee: And you can reach me, Renee, @_readbyrenee, or connect with both of us via email at synergytosynastry@gmail.com.

Christine: Keep your spirit curious and your aura sparkling.

Renee: We'll see you when the stars next align.

Outro

Renee: We're going to have to figure out what grade we are.

Renee: Are we just juniors by default?

Christine: I don't know.

Christine: I feel like we got to figure that out.

Christine: We might be on the fast track, you know, like we might be getting our masters.

Renee: Whoa, we're stepping straight to masters between seasons?

Renee: I'm impressed with us.

Christine: It's just an idea.

Christine: Yeah, it's just a thought.