Synergy to Synastry: All Along There Was Some Invisible String Theory (S2E7) Podcast Transcript

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Renee: You're listening to Synergy to Synastry, the podcast where two corporate girlies call to follow their intuition take you on a journey of self-exploration through metaphysical modalities.

Christine: I'm Christine, intuitive coach and clairvoyant.

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Renee: Now, let's get into the episode.

Christine: So Renee, tell us, how was your birthday?

Renee: I made sure to sleep in, to do no work, except I wanted to do a solar return analysis.

Renee: It's when your sun returns to the exact degree it was at when you were born.

Renee: So we were laughing, because we're like, what a Virgo thing, that my way to relax is doing an analysis.

Renee: But I was really looking forward to doing this, and it was super interesting.

Renee: So I looked back at 2024, and then forecasted 2025 for myself.

Renee: So I'll be able to look back at it a year from now, which will be fun.

Christine: As a fellow Virgo, I love this for you.

Christine: Analysis and cleaning are our favorite hobbies.

Christine: But I did want to tell you what was interesting is that yesterday, Renee was telling me that her son is in the 10th house.

Christine: And coincidentally, my mom's birthday is on the same day as Renee's.

Christine: Not only is my mom's Aries sun in the 10th house, both of their suns are conjunct their midheaven, and my north node is in Aries at three degrees.

Christine: So for the listeners in astrology, the older you get, the closer you get to embodying your north node, and you start to meet people with those prominent placements in their charts.

Christine: So I have been meeting a lot of Aries since I'm like 35, 36.

Christine: I think that's when I met Renee.

Christine: Not only is Renee in Aries and of course my mom, but it's at such a tight degree that you really are teaching me to embody my Aries north node.

Christine: How wild is that?

Renee: And how cute?

Christine: The cutest.

Renee: Where your planets are placed by sign, and each of the signs has an associated element, so fire, air, earth, water.

Renee: You're the heaviest in earth, I'm the heaviest in water, and those are complementary elements, and then my number two is earth.

Renee: So yes, I have fire in there, but it's actually ranked third of the four elements, and I have nothing in air.

Christine: I wonder if the universe brought you into my life to give me a palate cleanser into Aries.

Invisible String Theory

Christine: So Renee and I could talk for hours, but the whole reason we're talking about a coincidence is because today, we're talking about the topic of invisible string theory, which, if you haven't heard of it before, is the theory that everything is connected.

Christine: So the origin of invisible string theory comes from East Asian folklore.

Christine: So the story originates from Chinese mythology where the gods tie a red string around the ankles or fingers of two people who were destined to meet and get married.

Christine: And in modern culture, we meet who we're supposed to meet when we're supposed to meet them.

Christine: This brings us to a more scientific term, quantum entanglement, which is a fundamental part of quantum physics.

Christine: When two particles are entangled, they are connected regardless of how far apart they are.

Christine: Quantum physics is the study of the world around us at the most fundamental level, at the most micro level.

Christine: So something Deganit, founder of Nuurvana, our spiritual guru, always notes is that the microcosm is the macrocosm and vice versa.

Christine: So the theory is that what is happening with just one person can influence the world, just as what happens with the world can influence one person.

Christine: I think a lot of this ties into invisible string theory.

Coincidence, Synchronicities, Universal Connection

Renee: One of the main objections to string theory is that it's nothing more than coincidence that certain events happen in tandem.

Renee: However, if you remember back to season one, episode nine, we talked about synchronicities and other signs and symbols with the universe, events that can have a meaningful connection or feeling of coincidence, even if they're happening at different times under different circumstances.

Renee: And as intuitive, of course, we know that we are all connected through energy because that's how we are able to provide readings for people.

Renee: We are tapping in to the energy of that person, getting information from who even knows where out in the ether, out in the universe, and able to translate that and bring it into the present moment.

Renee: So to add a little bit of intuitive context to this conversation about energy and quantum physics, I'm going to quote from a book that I've previously mentioned on the podcast Signs by Laura Lynne Jackson.

Renee: On page 62, she says, the universe is made of matter, and all matter is essentially condensed energy.

Renee: Energy, therefore, is the currency that binds us all.

Renee: She continues on page 248, scientists who study quantum physics believe that all matter is energy.

Renee: The atoms themselves are nothing more than constantly swirling fields of electric energy.

Renee: And our souls, like everything else in the universe, are made of energy.

Renee: In fact, our bodies actually emit light.

Renee: Scientists have proven that in pitch darkness, we emit biophotons.

Renee: While imperceptible to the human eye, these biophotons can be measured by sensitive instruments.

Renee: We are quite literally beings of light.

Christine: Sometimes I wish we could see through the lens of animals who have like a wider range of vision than we do, because I would love to see all these other things that we can't see with the human eye.

Renee: Some people can see auras.

Renee: So it's almost like the energy field or like the light that they're giving off.

Renee: Maybe the light has a certain color.

Renee: So maybe there technically are some people who can.

Renee: But I wanted to touch on just that last part where I was talking about beings of light.

Renee: What Laura is referring to is this term that Deganit uses and we tend to use, this idea of being light workers.

Renee: So individuals who are bringing light with you, connecting to energy, carrying that light, being a light for other people so that they can grow spiritually, develop their souls for whatever their destined life path is.

Special Guest Interview with Paul on Physics

Renee: To continue this conversation, we're bringing on a special guest.

Renee: You will know him from previous episodes of the podcast.

Renee: My stepdad Paul is back, but this time to chat with us about one of his favorite hobbies and interests, which is perfect as somebody with a son and Sagittarius.

Renee: So welcome to the podcast.

Paul: Been looking forward to it.

Christine: We're so happy you're happy because we can't wait to talk to you about this.

Christine: The first question we wanted to ask you or pick your brain on is that we've defined string theory through like a textbook and a spiritual lens.

Christine: Can you share what you've understood it to be?

Paul: I'm a business person.

Paul: It's not like I'm a physics professor or anything, but there's two general worlds of physics.

Paul: There's the classical view, which is life in the world as we see it and understand it and can intuit from our existence here.

Paul: And quantum mechanics is the study of the microscopic.

Paul: So classical physics, macroscopic, quantum mechanics, microscopic.

Paul: One of the things I heard you say, Christine, was that ultimately everything is a matter of energy.

Paul: And that's exactly what Einstein's, the famous equation that everybody has heard of is e equals mc squared.

Paul: That close interrelationship between energy, matter, and speed, actually, velocity.

Christine: Renee, did you hear that?

Christine: Me and Einstein were put in the same sentence.

Renee: No big deal.

Paul: Equals mc squared was around 1905 or so.

Paul: And then he started tying it together with gravity.

Paul: I think he published that maybe around 1916 or 1917.

Paul: The quantum mechanics started coming together in the 20s and the 30s.

Paul: Ultimately, we're made up of atoms and subatomic particles, which behave very differently.

Paul: The laws of one domain don't work at all in the laws of the other.

Paul: And so how can this be?

Paul: Where does one end and the other begin?

Paul: String theory, at least from Western materialistic science, started developing in the 1950s.

Paul: And it was an attempt to reconcile those two worlds.

Paul: What it proposes, the entire universe as we know it, the three of us here, air, time, space, matter, everything at its most fundamental level is a massive symphony of tiny, one-dimensional, vibrating strings.

Christine: I feel like you said so much good stuff.

Christine: And also, have you seen Ant Man and the Wasp?

Paul: I've heard of it, but I have to say, I haven't watched it, no.

Christine: The whole theme basically is like quantum physics, which is nerdy but relaxing at the same time.

Paul: I get my knowledge late at night when I'm tired and watch YouTube.

Paul: Really, I'm a huge fan of Brian Greene and The World Science Festival, a leading physicist and a mathematician himself.

Paul: But he also has on wonderful guests, top people in the field, Nobel Prize winners, and he seems to rub elbows with all of these people.

Renee: We have a few citations of the things that we've already talked about in the first part.

Renee: We can link out to that YouTube page that you were talking about.

Quantum Mechanics

Renee: Can you discuss some of the most important theories in physics that will help listeners to really conceptualize or visualize what quantum mechanics is?

Paul: The three of us want to get together for dinner.

Paul: It's not like we can walk out the front door and just float to go meet some place.

Paul: We're constrained by the laws of motion, the laws of gravity, time.

Paul: And so, physics, its goal is to understand what these laws and these constraints are.

Paul: The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.

Paul: Something can exist in two separate states at one time until you observe it.

Paul: As soon as it's observed, it falls out of its probability state into a certainty.

Paul: Quantum mechanics.

Paul: It's really the most accurate scientific theory.

Paul: It has a mathematical accuracy that can be calculated to 13 decimal points.

Paul: And so, that's why, for example, we have the technology today that we do.

Paul: That we have cell phones, that we have computers, that we have quantum computers.

Paul: It isn't what we would normally intuit.

Connecting Physics & Intuition

Paul: By comparison with classical physics, relativity, it allows for past, present, future, all exist, almost as if it's a grand cosmic movie.

Paul: If what we really are is a collection of subatomic particles, all of the information about us is here.

Paul: And just like we can focus our attention talking to each other, I'm persuaded that there's quite a bit more information that's available to us.

Paul: It doesn't surprise me at all that gift might somehow be rooted in an ability that you have to understand this extra information that we don't normally perceive with our five senses.

Renee: Christine, we have super powers.

Christine: Dun, dun, dun.

Paul: You do.

Renee: We actually talked about this in our listener episode at the beginning of the season.

Renee: We were talking about communicating with animals.

Renee: If all of those beings are made of energy, contributing something with the symphony of vibrating strings, then if everyone just comes into this world with some thread of energetic connection.

Renee: We've talked about this throughout the podcast, but we especially highlighted examples in the first season in episode five when we were discussing all of the Clairs.

Renee: And a lot of those are really simple things.

Renee: You know somebody's going to text you, and then they do.

Renee: We're all little cell phone towers, and we're like pinging, and we're sending information out, and then other people are picking up on it.

Paul: Yeah.

Paul: I kind of like to think of it as your strings are picking up on what other strings are going on.

Christine: Connecting to your intuition is more rooted in nature, and I think because there was a time where we were more connected to nature, it just made sense that if you saw an omen, or you got a message, or you hallucinated and spoke with your ancestors, like that was legit because...

Paul: Yeah...

Christine: that's like what we had.

Christine: When people get into that flow state, right?

Christine: It's like, it's why like I really recommend people follow what interests them.

Christine: Not that I watch a lot of Disney, but there's another movie called Soul.

Christine: The soul's like walking around, and it sees these other souls that haven't passed on yet, and it's the souls of people in the flow state.

Christine: When you're playing music, or when you're creating art, or when you're reading, whatever it is, you're connecting to that other fabric of intuition, or quantum, or whatever we've been talking about here today.

The Role of Intuitives in History

Christine: But I think culturally speaking, back in the day, I think intuition was a part of our society, not separate from.

Christine: And even if you think about it, during medieval times, there was always like a Nostradamus or a Rasputin type figure who would go and meditate and come back with.

Christine: I mean, even priests probably did it up until some point.

Christine: They probably went out into the fields and meditated or got high to see visions and came back and told the king or whoever what they saw.

Christine: So, I think they were revered, respected and also feared at a certain point.

Christine: And that's how we get to where we are in modern day society, where we're so disconnected that we forget that, like we always say, everybody has access to this.

Christine: I started watching To All The Boys I Loved Before, like those three movies.

Christine: There's a Korean mythology around this as well, that we're all connected by an invisible string.

Renee: If they were coming up with all of this across so many cultures thousands of years ago, contextually, that means that these are just individual people walking around, and enough of these stories are cropping up organically, or they're dreaming it up, or they're intuiting it, or all of the above, and then it becomes oral history, it becomes folklore, it becomes part of the fabric of their culture.

Renee: Hundreds, thousands of years later, a different community, science, doing analysis and actually committing it to data and numbers.

Renee: It's reinforcing what people have known for such a long time.

Vibrational Energy of Living Things

Christine: I wanna go back to the symphony for a second because it just reminded me of a video I saw recently where a woman hooked up like a conductor to daffodils.

Christine: You heard like the vibration that the daffodils were giving off that we can't hear with the human ear.

Christine: But when she smelled the daffodils, it was almost like the sound coming off the daffodils got brighter.

Paul: I vividly recall in a science class, the teacher was talking about something like this very thing.

Paul: A plant was in an environment, maybe like on a table with other plants.

Paul: They started ripping apart the other plants violently, and this plant responded to it.

Renee: There have been some studies on plants.

Renee: They would have like you talking to a plant, and you saying nice things to it.

Renee: And then there's a control, they just water it, and then the other plant, they said mean things to it.

Renee: And what they found was that the plant that received the mean things literally wilted and started to die.

Paul: Wow.

Renee: There is energy, like it matters.

Renee: Whenever I go to water, I'll like talk to the plant that we have, that I'm trying to nurse back to health.

Renee: And I'll be like, I'm so sorry you're a little bit parched.

Renee: I'm watering you.

Renee: I'm going to take care of you.

Paul: I'm here for you.

Paul: I'm going to nurse you back.

Paul: Hang in there with me.

Dark Energy & Universe Expansion

Paul: I was watching something, speaking of World Science Festival, last night.

Paul: The reason that the universe is actually expanding and all of the galaxies are moving away from each other is the negative energy that fills the void of space that's called dark energy.

Paul: And a really great analogy that Brian Greene made was to say, hey, look, take like a bicycle tire and lay it down so that it's flat on the ground and spin it and so that water is coming off of it.

Paul: You can visualize that in your mind where water is just projecting off of the tire.

Paul: That's how scientists would expect the behavior to be out at large constellations, especially spiral galaxies.

Paul: They would expect to see stars and planets spinning off.

Paul: They don't.

Paul: They keep a nice tight formation.

Paul: And the only explanation for it is the gravity of dark matter.

Christine: This is going to tie the whole episode together.

Christine: I had a book on my TBR that I was just telling Renee about before we joined this call.

Christine: It's called The Sun is Also a Star.

Christine: It's about a young Jamaican girl and how she's going into the city to find a lawyer to stop her from getting deported.

Christine: She meets a Korean American young boy who's in the city for his interview with Yale, but he doesn't want to go, so he just lets the day take him wherever.

Paul: Sounds like something right from the current headlines.

Christine: Yeah, right.

Christine: Natasha talks about dark matter, and she's very scientific, and she's trying to explain this to Daniel, and he's like a poet and a dreamer.

Christine: She's trying to explain that the universe is constantly expanding.

Christine: The thing stopping it from expanding basically is dark matter that's holding it together, but we don't know what dark matter is.

Christine: And Daniel, the poet goes, dark matter is love, because it's what holds everything together.

Christine: What if dark matter scientifically really is just the energy of love, but on like a grand cosmic scale?

Paul: All possibilities are open, because they really don't know what it is.

Renee: Obviously, we're discussing something today that's way more heavy in the science, and in this case, physics wing, because intuition, energy exists everywhere.

Renee: And the thesis of the podcast is, number one, everybody has an intuition, and two, there's so many different ways that you can access it and different tools that you can use to understand yourself.

Renee: And if this is one lens of, hey, you can see yourself in Albert Einstein.

Renee: That's something that happened today.

Paul: Yeah, there you go.

Paul: You just didn't call it relativity, Christine.

Paul: That's all.

Christine: That's where I messed up.

Christine: No.

Maureen: I'm here.

Renee: She wants another opportunity to sneak into the pod.

Renee: She doesn't like the fact that the two of them are tied with their appearances, and she wants more.

Paul: Oh, Christine, we were talking about this the other day.

Paul: She's like, well, what am I going to do?

Maureen: Yeah.

Paul: You know, like, I want my own episode.

Maureen: What's my role?

Maureen: It's all about you, you, you.

Christine: It's, you know what?

Christine: I told Renee we shouldn't do this.

Maureen: I was downstairs working, and I could hear like giggles.

Maureen: I'm like, oh, they're having a good time.

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Renee: We'll pick our Summer Solstice Raffle winner by random draw and give them a shout out on social and the podcast on June 20th, which is when the sun enters the cardinal water sign of cancer.

Maharishi Effect

Renee: Because physics, and specifically quantum physics, is such a complex topic, we want to ground the conversation in some real world examples.

Renee: Christine, why don't you start?

Christine: This is one of my favorite ones.

Christine: Group prayer or meditation is an example of the invisible string theory that we're all connected.

Christine: It's known as the Maharishi effect, and some of you may have heard of this, but basically, in 1960, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi predicted that 1% of a population practicing transcendental meditation would produce some measurable improvements in the quality of life for the whole population.

Christine: This phenomenon was first reported in a paper published in the 1970s, and what they found was that when 1% of a community practiced transcendental meditation, the crime rate in that area was reduced by 16% on average.

Christine: I think we've heard of other examples of this as well where somebody is really sick in their community, praise for them, and they make a miraculous recovery.

Christine: There are just a lot of instances, regardless of what culture or what term you use to talk about meditation, where if enough of us focus on healing in some way, it can happen.

Christine: One person meditating can do something, but if we get a group of people meditating, we can do so much more and we can maybe make a measurable impact on society.

Renee: There's so many layers to what you just said.

Energetic Connection Through Meditation & Yoga

Renee: Programs that they do in prisons where they have people come in and they teach them meditation and different wellness practices and what an impact that has.

Renee: If you just equip people with some of these tools, on one hand, you're helping the individual, so self-regulation of emotions, being more present.

Renee: But as we can attest to by doing the Nuurvana circles, which as a recording, they're happening monthly, there is a different feeling when you are meditating by yourself versus meditating within a group.

Renee: You pick up on energy, it just feels different even if you're remote and you're not in person when everyone is sitting down and they are putting their focus, their attention towards collective healing or supporting each other or creating that safe space for community and connection.

Renee: Then third point that came to mind in listening to that, if we have X amount of people in society deciding anything, we want to donate more, volunteer more, if you have enough people that commit to doing that, it will have a tangible impact within that set group.

Renee: But then when those people spread kindness, love and support, they are impacted in a way that a certain percentage of that group then decides to turn over a new leaf and so on and so forth, and it has a ripple effect, which is why one person, in theory, could inspire enough people to make some sort of a change.

Renee: But when you have a locked in group, and this brings us back to the Lightworkers I mentioned earlier, this idea that we have all of these people, potentially us included, whose spirits chose to be incarnated in this time, who think in a different way, who want everybody to get along, love and support each other, to not have war and people fighting and being mean and denying people's realities, and wanting to have peace and connection and collaboration.

Renee: We are strong when we work together, than when we are pitted against each other, and not letting the powers-that-be do that to us.

Renee: So when we have this community of people already with this principle, slowly finding each other over time, and then individually having their own impact, and then teaming up and having an impact, which is hopefully what we are doing with this podcast, that maybe we can have our own little Maharishi effect.

Christine: That would be very, very cool.

Christine: It makes me think about the concept of community as well.

Christine: If I'm doing yoga, I enjoy it more when I'm in a room full of people who are also doing yoga and meditating together.

Christine: Like you said, the energy is just buzzy.

Christine: There's a studio in New York called Lion's Den Yoga and it's hot yoga.

Christine: You'd be doing tree pose and everybody had to have their hands touch, so we were all literally connected.

Christine: As much as I thought it was so disgusting to touch the person's hand next to me, I loved that connection of the community of people I was with.

Christine: You just felt so much more uplifted, like your vibration was higher, your mood was better.

Christine: I definitely think there is something to this.

Relationships with Feelings of Destiny

Christine: Another example that I want to highlight here of invisible string theory is meeting someone and you feel like you've known them forever.

Christine: Your souls are bound together for something in this life.

Christine: You're meant to learn something together, you're meant to create something together, maybe you're meant to spend the rest of your life together.

Christine: I'm curious Renee if you've ever had that feeling before.

Renee: I've had that happen multiple times in the last several years.

Renee: Actually, one of them as an example was our mutual friend Hallie.

Renee: It was announced that in our Be Light program, we were going to have these partners in light.

Renee: And I was looking at the list and I was like, that's who I'm going to be partnered with.

Renee: I knew right away.

Renee: I think Hallie had the same feeling.

Renee: And then Deganit revealed later that our names I think came in first.

Renee: We were definitely tied to each other within the program because both of us were thinking, oh, I'm totally going to get paired with that person.

Renee: And then Deganit picked up on it and then paired us.

Christine: That is wild.

Renee: Hallie and I connecting led to us saying, oh, well, we want to keep meeting when the program ends.

Renee: We looped in Lisa and then Lisa looped in you and Glynis.

Renee: And so then the group continued from the starting point of Hallie and I getting paired as partners in light.

Christine: Red string theory started with the two of you.

Christine: And then you strung us all in.

Renee: To build on this exact idea, you can also meet someone and like Christine mentioned before, maybe they end up being in your life for a very long time.

Renee: But if not, they also could be a bridge relationship.

Renee: They connect you with certain opportunities.

Renee: So a job or there are just a catalyst for you to launch that new career or introduce you to the love of your life.

Renee: And they were the through line to get you to where you're meant to be going.

Taylor Swift & Invisible String Theory

Renee: One example for a celebrity who we've spoken about a couple of times in this podcast, Taylor Swift has a song called Invisible String on her Folklore album, which takes us full circle to how Christine started this conversation with Folklore.

Renee: She's talking about this exact idea.

Renee: She's going through her life and realizing when she looks back that she actually had these different connections.

Renee: It was an invisible string tying someone to her.

Renee: And she can look at how this tapestry is woven with all of the different relationships over time.

Renee: And some thing that Swifties have done is analyze specifically her relationship with Travis Kelce.

Renee: There's an old video of him where he was interviewed.

Renee: I don't know if it was when he first got in the NFL or if it was when he was in college, but it was a long time ago.

Renee: And he was asked essentially like who his celebrity crush was.

Renee: And he said Taylor Swift way back when.

Renee: And then, of course, he decides to go to her errors tour and he makes her a friendship bracelet to try to give her his number.

Renee: He brought it up on the podcast and then it ended up going viral, but kind of being meant to be that he had this crush on her and then they ended up dating.

Renee: It's like he manifested it, one.

Renee: And then on her side, people were looking back at some of her old songs.

Renee: As an example, in her song Fifteen, she sings, quote, there are things greater than dating the boy on the football team.

Renee: And she ends up dating a football player.

Renee: That's just one reference.

Renee: There are more references in her songs and people go, oh my gosh, this is so crazy that they ended up together.

Renee: We've also learned, they actually had a ton of mutual friends.

Renee: Like one of her dancers on the Errors Tour, his brother was on Travis' football team.

Renee: And they had, I think, like Miles Teller, like there was some connection like through him.

Renee: There's like a bunch of different like friends of friends and they had intersecting circles.

Renee: So I don't know if that's how she ended up actually considering going out with him because she got all these references.

Renee: But it's almost like they were living their lives in parallel for a period of time before they actually intersected and linked up.

Renee: And one might say, was that the invisible string that was eventually connecting them to be together now?

Christine: I am like a little kid listening to the story of Santa Claus right now.

Christine: I am enthralled.

Christine: I freaking love this so much.

Christine: I'm like speechless at this point.

Christine: I just can't believe it.

Christine: And if anyone wants to know, like, Travis and Taylor are my American royalty.

Christine: So, oh my god, I love them so much.

Living in an Energetically Linked Reality

Christine: If this principle of invisible string theory is weaved through the fabric of reality, I think the big question here that we should close out on is what does that mean for how we live our lives?

Christine: Does that change how we think about things?

Renee: Some of the hopes are that we would be kind to the environment, kind to animals, kind to people.

Christine: When you're kind to all of those things outside of you, you're also being kind to yourself.

Renee: Yes.

Christine: Love it.

Renee: We don't live in a vacuum.

Renee: We tend to forget that.

Renee: We just start thinking in the earthly thoughts about what's my human existence?

Renee: What are the things that I'm doing?

Renee: What's on my to-do list?

Renee: What are my bills?

Renee: Totally understandable that we think about that.

Renee: However, we don't have to understand every single aspect of quantum physics and how far the universe goes and black holes, and that can be very overwhelming and scary and intimidating to some people.

Renee: We don't actually have to live that far out.

Renee: We can live farther than just the human day to day and kind of strike a balance in between.

Renee: There's another theory in physics where every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Renee: So, if that's the case, then what you are doing impacts you and impacts other people.

Renee: And then what we do does matter.

Renee: People can get very existential and say, oh, well, you know, if we're just in this blip of time, then what I do doesn't...

Renee: Okay, if you want to take that approach and say that what you're doing now, because you're just a speck in the arc of history of the universe, but really a lot of people are not going to think that way.

Renee: And again, that feels disenfranchising, nothing I do matters.

Renee: And we know that that's not true.

Renee: We know that you just holding a door open for somebody or complimenting a stranger can change their entire day.

Renee: And then you changing their entire day means that they do or say something to other people or they make a different choice.

Renee: There's extremes.

Renee: It comes back to finding the balance, walk that tightrope and know that you actually do have power to throw in some more quotes here with power comes great responsibility.

Christine: Okay, Spider-Man.

Renee: Yeah.

Christine: And I think something else that I would build on to that is, it almost releases this worry that we're not going to find the right people.

Christine: We have to.

Christine: If we're all connected in this way, we're going to meet the right people.

Christine: And I think about the psychic who told me I'm going to marry somebody with an airy son.

Christine: I didn't start meeting an influx of airy people.

Christine: Until I was like 35, 36, I'm only 37 now, which means maybe I'm going to get married later in life.

Christine: And there's no need for me to worry about when and if, because it's all happening when it's supposed to happen.

Christine: The other point that I want to say is I think it's important for us to be ourselves.

Christine: Be yourself, be yourself.

Christine: But I think it's important for us to be ourselves, because when we are ourselves, we're following that invisible string, right?

Christine: What is piquing our interest and what is taking our focus?

Christine: I think that is the string leading us to our next step or where we're supposed to be going in this life.

Christine: Those are our thoughts.

Christine: Curious to hear yours.

Dream Analysis

Renee: Christine, what did you dream?

Christine: This dream I had before the March 14th eclipse of 2025.

Christine: I had cut my hair.

Christine: I wanted curtain bangs, but I kept saying, I want ribbon bangs.

Christine: And I knew I meant curtain, but I kept saying ribbon.

Christine: So I took these two symbols and I looked them up.

Christine: What does a haircut mean and what does a ribbon mean?

Christine: A haircut signifies a fresh start or shedding some unwanted aspect of yourself.

Christine: Ribbons are fun, I think.

Christine: They signify innocence, playfulness, festivities, frivolity and girliness.

Christine: I think the message that I'm getting is I am shedding.

Christine: I don't want to say that this is an unwanted aspect of myself, but I think I've had more masculine energy for a really long time than feminine, and I've been working towards incorporating a lot more of the feminine energy into myself.

Christine: And for those of you who know me, I love to dress up, I love makeup, I love to get my nails done.

Christine: Not that sort of femininity, more sort of the feminine energy of trusting the universe and taking a step back.

Christine: And I don't always have to be in control.

Christine: Let myself be taken care of for once.

Christine: So I'm kind of excited to see what happens.

Christine: Renee, what was your dreams about?

Renee: My dream, I picked from a different astrological event, the Spring Equinox.

Renee: I was sitting on the ground and I had a young blonde boy who I knew to be my son.

Renee: For context, I don't have any children.

Renee: This boy was sitting in my lap.

Renee: He was small, so I guess he was maybe like a toddler or something like that, but he was very precocious because we were having a conversation.

Renee: And I registered in my dream that he shouldn't be able to talk back in the way we were conversing.

Renee: Like he was embracing me and he kissed the back of my head and then he kissed my face and then he went to stick his fingers up my nose.

Renee: And so I'm like backing away, like, you know, because it's like what like a little kid would do.

Renee: Like they just, there's no sense of boundaries.

Renee: They're just kind of all over you.

Renee: And then I started to talk to him.

Renee: I don't remember all of the words I was using, but we had a conversation.

Renee: And then I asked him how old he thought I was.

Renee: And he gave me a number.

Renee: I don't remember, but it was something outrageous, like it was like 80 or 100 or something like that.

Renee: In my head, I thought, oh, that's good.

Renee: He picked a lower number than last time.

Renee: For a few years now, I regularly have dreams with children or babies.

Renee: Now that I'm sitting here and thinking about it, most of the time that I have a child, it's a son, actually.

Renee: For my analysis with this dream, it was a little tricky because some of the symbols in it were so specific and I was having trouble finding one-to-ones on it.

Renee: Talking to a child, what this can symbolize is that you, the adult, are encouraged to listen to advice from your elders or to not rush into action and to get in touch with your inner child or a sense of play.

Renee: Being kissed by a child, that can be a message to learn moderation or an indicator that you are currently balancing joy and your spirituality in some capacity or to do a little bit more of it.

Renee: Then I looked into the kiss placement.

Renee: So it's the back of my head and on my cheek and what I was able to find with those is the back of your head symbolizes support in concerns around security, financial or just otherwise symbolic.

Renee: The kiss on the cheek is an encouragement to lean into your feminine energy, which is what a coincidence, but not a coincidence that Christine and I both had a dream that mentioned play and about leaning into feminine energy.

Renee: How perfect.

Renee: We did not compare notes when we selected these dreams for today.

Christine: Oh, my God.

Christine: My hands are on my cheeks, Macaulay Culkin style.

Renee: Two more symbols I want to cover before we wrap up here.

Renee: Fingers up the nose.

Renee: There is a symbol for somebody like grabbing at your nose, which is kind of what he was doing.

Renee: Like he wasn't picking my nose.

Renee: He just was like sticking his fingers in there.

Renee: The meaning of somebody else grabbing your nose is actually an indicator of you finding your soulmate soon.

Renee: Again, Christine is sitting there and she's clapping and dancing.

Renee: I saw this and I was so excited.

Renee: This is awesome.

Christine: I am obsessed.

Christine: And I am so excited that we're recording the podcast during these seasons, almost like a little diary of what happens now.

Renee: I know.

Christine: I'm so excited.

Christine: Okay, keep going.

Renee: The last piece of symbolism that I have for this dream was talking about age.

Renee: And this was where it was hard because the nuance here was that the kid was guessing my age and he guessed incorrectly.

Renee: The closest interpretation that I could find was this idea of being a different age than you actually are in the dream.

Renee: And what that means is a call to embrace new perspectives and opportunities.

Renee: Basically, this very short dream was just piece of advice after advice after advice and then validation and encouragement of like you're on the right track or this thing is coming or like stay open.

Christine: And I really can't wait to see what happens for us because I feel like these are such I don't know exciting positive messages.

Readings

Christine: Okay, on to the reading portion of the podcast.

Christine: I saw the number seven, and as we know from our episode on numerology, seven vibrates the message of spirituality.

Christine: And so what I was hearing was it's no coincidence that Renee and I happened to schedule this episode for episode seven slot of the podcast this season, which I thought was pretty cool.

Christine: And I basically saw, my cat Copper has a very thick coat, and I feel like he's always like charged with static electricity.

Christine: At night, sometimes he'll come into bed and obviously it's pitch black, and I'll go to pet him and I'll see these like little blue and purple sparks in his fur because he's static electric all the time.

Christine: And they were reminding me that like magic is all around us, like they were showing me fireflies, like these little bits of light that sort of pop out when we least expect it and we're almost like in awe of it.

Christine: And the message from Spirit was to look for it.

Christine: And if you feel called to it, send an email to Renee and I about the little piece of magic you found.

Christine: It could be anonymous.

Christine: And if we get enough responses, we can compile it and share it with the audience.

Christine: And the mantra that I got for us is magic is all around.

Renee: It is so rare on this podcast.

Renee: But yeah, mine felt not the opposite of yours, but in a square.

Renee: So what I was brought into was a jar of pickles.

Renee: It's acidic, it's sharp.

Renee: Like that's the energy that you are swimming in right now.

Renee: For some of you, you don't mind because you're okay with a little acidity.

Renee: And for others, it is just simply not to your taste.

Renee: So what I'm seeing is kind of like a water purifier, but it's some sort of filtration system.

Renee: Clearing the juice out, so it gradually changes from that fluorescent green color to clear.

Renee: So it just looks like water.

Renee: And for this reading, I was called to use some cards.

Renee: So I pulled two different cards from the Moonology Manifestation Oracle deck.

Renee: And it was at this point that I got the nudge to flip over card number one.

Renee: And that card is the Full Moon in Sagittarius.

Renee: See the bigger picture.

Renee: What we're doing is we're seeing beyond and outside of the pickle jar.

Renee: We couldn't see before because it was opaque.

Renee: We can understand now, where is this pickle jar?

Renee: It's on a shelf somewhere, but are we in a fridge?

Renee: Are we in a kitchen cabinet?

Renee: Are we in the grocery store?

Renee: What's the context?

Renee: Because the context matters.

Renee: The next thing that came through was seeing somebody reach in and take the jar off the shelf and try to open the container.

Renee: Pickle jars are notorious for being challenging to open.

Renee: The person inside is getting jostled around like they're sloshing around within this jar, banging up against the walls while the person is opening it.

Renee: You are quite literally being shaken up.

Renee: Before I even finished the story here, I got nudged, flip over the next card, I started cracking up.

Renee: New Moon in Cancer, Relax.

Renee: Which made me laugh because it's like you're being shaken up and you're like, oh gosh, you're like so frazzled.

Renee: The universe, your guides are telling you to relax because it's going to be over soon.

Renee: Once the jar gets open, you can free yourself from the jar and get out.

Renee: So I want to add the caveat here.

Renee: You're not a pickle.

Renee: You just happen to be in a pickle jar, so you're not at risk of the person reaching in and trying to eat you.

Renee: That's not the horror movie scenario that's in this.

Renee: It's just that you're in the jar.

Renee: And then I started laughing because I was thinking about our Easter eggs in season one, and this was just reminding me of the Glass Case of Emotions quote from Anchorman, because that's what the state is, and cancer is a very emotional science.

Renee: You're being told to relax because you are emotionally not at ease.

Renee: You are very activated.

Renee: And then the mantra that I got was, be the light you seek.

Christine: Thanks for listening.

Christine: If you'd like to learn more, the resources we used to prepare for this episode are listed in the show notes.

Renee: If you're curious to develop your intuition, we've partnered with the Nuurvana Be Light program to give our listeners a $500 discount on tuition fees.

Renee: Email us for more details and we'll connect you with the founder, Deganit Nuur.

Christine: Want to connect with us?

Christine: You can reach me, Christine, @ChanneledbyChristine with one L on Instagram.

Renee: And you can reach me, Renee, @_readbyrenee, or connect with both of us via email at synergytosynastry@gmail.com.

Christine: Keep your spirit curious and your aura sparkling.

Renee: We'll see you when the stars next align.

Outro

Christine: Do you want me to dive into those dots?

Christine: The origin of this invisible string theory comes from East Asian folklore, the myth that...

Christine: It's like, I can't see my brain, okay.

Renee: Well, you should never be able to see your brain.

Christine: Fair, but fair.

Christine: I have no defense, the case rests.

Christine: And I forgot anything I was gonna say while we were waiting for the sirens, so I have nothing for you.

Renee: My brain's a bowl of spaghetti.

Christine: No, she's like a cloud puff today.

Christine: Spaghetti is like too many ideas.

Christine: You can't focus on just one spaghetti.

Renee: Mm, so it's like an awareness of the fact that there's all of the different strands of spaghetti, so there's just, there's so much.

Christine: There's so much and they're like slip sliding around like.

Renee: Tune in to hear Christine's other brain manifestations.

Renee: Will it be food next time?

Christine: It's usually food.