Synergy to Synastry: LIVE from the Void – Down the Hatch of LOST (BONUS) Podcast Transcript

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Renee: Now, let's get into the episode.

Christine: Welcome to this bonus episode of Synergy to Synastry.

Christine: We're gonna take you behind the scenes of recording this podcast, where you'll hear nothing but tangents.

Renee: If you're looking for free flowing conversation that's light on content, then these episodes are for you.

Renee: We gab about metaphysical modalities, current events, TV shows we're watching, and even bring on special guests.

Renee: Settle in, because we're coming at you LIVE from the Void.

LIVE from the Void: Introduction to LOST

Renee: For the listener, when we were on a retreat in the fall.

Christine: Are we recording?

Renee: Yes, we are recording.

Renee: I never paused.

Renee: At a retreat in the fall, Christine was in the bathroom, doing her hair, washing up or something, and she was playing music on her phone.

Renee: I said, oh, that song that you were just playing, like have you watched Lost?

Renee: Do you not know what the song is that I was talking about?

Christine: It's either Downtown or, hold on, I'm just looking up the name of the song.

Renee: I think they do have Downtown in there.

Christine: Downtown is in there.

Renee: There's another song that kind of sounds similar to that.

Christine: Yeah, Make Your Own Kind of Music with Mama Cass, right?

Christine: Yes.

Renee: That song, Christine was playing while getting ready for the day or night or whatever it was.

Renee: And so I brought up Lost to Christine and said, oh, you should watch it because you know who's in it.

Renee: Full circle, let's go back to season one, Synergy to Synastry, talking about Vampire Diaries.

Renee: And I said, you know who's in it?

Renee: Ian Somerhalder, aka Damon Salvatore.

Renee: Kind of tempted, but wasn't really sure.

Renee: All of a sudden, many months later, I get a text from Christine out of the blue saying, I started watching Lost.

Renee: I'm so happy Ian Somerhalder and Matthew Fox are in it.

Christine: It's so good.

Christine: Just it's so, so, so good.

Welcoming Our First Guest

Renee: So we brought back very special guest from season one of the pod, my mom, Maureen, who also recently rewatched Lost.

Renee: And we thought we would do a little breakdown and just chat and see where the conversation takes us.

Maureen: Hi, everybody.

Maureen: I'm back.

Christine: We missed you.

Maureen: I know.

Maureen: I love being on this podcast.

Maureen: It's so much fun.

Maureen: I feel like a celebrity.

Christine: You are.

Christine: I refer to you as our third podcast host.

Christine: You're not always here, but you are part of the podcast.

Maureen: So let's talk about Lost because that show, I-

LOST Spoiler Warning

Renee: Wait, hold up.

Renee: Before we jump in, we have to give a spoiler warning for the listeners.

Christine: Oh yeah, absolutely.

Christine: Nothing is off limits in this conversation.

Christine: So if you haven't watched Lost yet and don't want to be spoiled, definitely skip this episode and come back later to it once you do.

Christine: I highly recommend watching it.

Renee: You've been officially warned.

Renee: Mommy, back to you.

Maureen: I felt like I was in mourning.

Maureen: And I remember going downstairs.

Maureen: I forget what I was doing, get something out of my office.

Maureen: And I'm like, I can't believe Jack died.

Maureen: And my husband's like, okay, this is a pretend show.

Maureen: These aren't real people.

Maureen: And I'm like, but it's so sad.

Maureen: It was tough, did you feel that way?

Christine: I don't know if I, this is weird.

Christine: And I think it's because of like how I think about death.

Christine: But I was like so excited for them to like have created a space for them all to meet each other when they passed to like move on to the next thing.

Christine: So I think I was more sad that like I wasn't going on with them.

Christine: Like I still wanted to hang out with them.

Christine: I think I texted Renee too within the first episode.

Christine: What's his name?

Renee: The leg.

Renee: John Locke.

Christine: John Locke, who I have so many opinions on.

Christine: But as soon as he was able to move his leg, I was like, Renee, I don't think they're actually alive.

Christine: So I thought they weren't alive for the entire series.

Renee: Which was a theory.

Renee: That's a very common theory.

Renee: Well, they just died immediately and everything we've watched in the show was made up.

Renee: Or there's another theory that Hurley actually imagined the entire thing, because he was in a fantasy where he was depressed and by himself.

Renee: So he imagined making a bunch of friends, which I think is very dark.

Renee: Very dark.

Renee: People were nervous as the show was reaching its conclusion to see where are they going to land?

Renee: Are they going to reveal that they're all dead this entire time?

Renee: Because people didn't want that to be the case, because people were guessing that from the first episode.

Maureen: Yeah.

TV on Streaming Services

Maureen: You know what kind of spoiled the whole rewatching for me, and I kept trying to push it out of my head, is that my husband said he heard that they were writing as they go.

Renee: Yes.

Maureen: And so they didn't really know how it was going to end.

Maureen: And they started to build episodes based off of some of the characters who were just getting a lot of buzz, like, you know, Kate and Sawyer, that whole thing.

Renee: I did hear that at the time.

Renee: They had a general idea for where they loosely wanted the show to go, but they were very fluid as they were writing it to take it on different turns and kind of respond to the audience in a way.

Renee: We have a lot more of that now.

Renee: I think about all the shows on streaming, because that's where a significant portion of TV is now.

Renee: The whole season comes out, and people can binge it.

Renee: They'll know what people's responses are, and then they could use all of that to inform writing the next season, because they haven't even started on it yet.

Renee: So there is a little bit of call and response that we have now with writing.

Renee: It's not that it didn't exist before, but it's a little bit different because it was more traditional at that point in time to only have episodes come out once a week.

Maureen: It is a show that you have to binge watch.

Maureen: I started watching it when it was live on TV.

Maureen: And then Renee would come in and she'd be like, oh, what are you watching?

Maureen: And then she started to get interested and all.

Maureen: And I have to say, once they went forward in time, I thought, okay, now I'm not sure, are they dead?

Maureen: Renee also was very good at explaining, okay, well, I think this is what's happening, because it just started to take twists and turns.

Maureen: But watching it the second time, I did not feel that way at all.

Renee: Who was calling you?

Christine: Put them on the podcast.

Maureen: Oh my God.

Renee: Hold the phone up to the speaker.

Maureen: Hold a second.

Christine: Okay.

Maureen: Okay, thanks, bye-bye.

Maureen: Long story, but this happens.

Maureen: Most of the time my phone rings and I never pick it up because I'll look at the caller ID and I know it's spam, but I know it wasn't.

Maureen: Sorry about that.

Christine: No, it's okay.

Christine: So we were talking about, oh, to watch it, you should binge watch it.

Christine: I will say, I was confused the entire time I watched the show, but I was also just so addicted to what came next.

Renee: And you're watching it alone, which I think is challenging and we've never experienced that because when I first watched it, I was always watching it with my mom.

Renee: I totally forgot about this, but Leanne was saying that during the pandemic at the beginning of it, she and I rewatched Lost and I was like, we did?

TV Boyfriends

Renee: And then when my mom was rewatching it, she was watching it with Paul.

Christine: Well, I technically wasn't alone because I had all of my TV boyfriends and I think this is a really great time to bring up how much I miss Matthew Fox.

Christine: And I think that's why I'm here.

Maureen: Party of Five.

Christine: Yes.

Christine: And I was definitely, I don't know if I was too young to be watching Party of Five when I was watching it.

Christine: Matthew Fox, if he's listening.

Maureen: I thought his acting was superb.

Maureen: Just his facial expressions, his ability to just really look terrorized at times.

Maureen: I thought he was excellent.

Maureen: I really did.

Maureen: John Locke was pretty good too, if you think about his character.

Maureen: And he wasn't my favorite character to watch, but.

Christine: He did.

Christine: I was very uncomfortable watching him, which I think was the point of his character.

Christine: So like success.

Christine: I was not a John Locke fan until like maybe the last three episodes.

Maureen: Yeah.

Maureen: And what about Ben Linus?

Maureen: Oh my God, that guy, you can't like him at all.

Christine: He's a weasel.

Maureen: He was horrible at first, but at the end you do, you're okay with him.

Christine: Yeah.

Christine: I mean, at the very, very end when he's like, oh, I think I have more work to do and he's finally self-aware.

Christine: But he's a little weasel.

Maureen: He did some pretty bad things.

Maureen: But anyway, so your favorite character was?

Christine: I was shipping Kate and Sawyer so hard.

Christine: I do not like Juliet and Sawyer.

Christine: It makes no sense whatsoever.

Christine: And I get that like Kate was away for a while, but I really think the story arc should have been that Sawyer grew so much with Juliet that after she passed him and Kate rekindled.

Maureen: If I wasn't married, I'd marry him.

Maureen: I love that.

Christine: Well, so I have a top five of like celebrities, you know, they're my boyfriends.

Maureen: Yeah.

Christine: But I've also added Matthew Fox.

Maureen: Do they each know you have multiple boyfriends?

Christine: They don't.

Christine: And I think all of them are in very happy marriages.

Christine: But I have added Matthew Fox, Josh Holloway and Daniel Dae Kim onto that list.

Christine: We have to talk about Jin.

Christine: And yes, I cried over him multiple times during the series.

Christine: Like every time I thought we lost him, devastated.

Maureen: Yeah, I had a tough time in the beginning with him because he looked so different to me.

Maureen: As he became, I think, more personable and he looked like the Jin that I remembered.

Maureen: So I was a little confused by him because I remember the first time thinking, oh, he's so great and him and son and their relationship.

Renee: Well, he's a good example of someone who had a really strong story arc.

Maureen: He did.

Renee: Because he developed a ton.

Renee: Like when you first see those flashbacks of him and son and the dynamic with the dad and all of the serious business stuff, he really became this other person that was not him.

Renee: He got hardened and it was this process of being on the island allowed him to undo that and become a better version of himself and reconnect with her.

Maureen: Become a better person, become a better husband.

Children on LOST

Maureen: What do you think about the whole baby thing?

Maureen: Because at first, when I was watching it, I thought the children on the island were the key to something.

Christine: I think it goes with what you were saying before.

Christine: I think the writers didn't know where they were going to go with it, and they started something and just never closed the loop.

Christine: But then we had a baby, so they had to take care of it.

Christine: So they're like, all right, Kate, take it.

Christine: I don't like what they ended up doing with, I'm going to call her Belle, but that's not her character in this show.

Maureen: The baby?

Christine: No, the baby's mom.

Renee: Claire.

Christine: Claire.

Christine: She's Belle in Once Upon a Time, and that's the only way I see her.

Christine: I don't like what they did with Claire.

Christine: They turned her into a feral, and I don't think that's who she is.

Nicky and Paolo Bottle Episode of LOST

Christine: Can we talk about Nicky and Paolo, because that was an episode, and I was like, we're never going to come back to this.

Renee: That is a topic of discussion in the lore of this program, that Nicky Paolo bottle episode.

Renee: I remember seeing analyses of this.

Renee: Oh, it's like it ranked as one of the worst episodes of Lost because people were so mad at it.

Maureen: Okay, I don't know what you're talking about.

Renee: I'll explain it in a second.

Renee: So what happened was there's a group of people, I don't remember the details because I haven't watched it recently, but there's a group of people, and they come upon these two bodies.

Renee: They end up being buried in the ground somewhere.

Renee: They do this whole bottle episode, aka a plot line that doesn't really impact anything else.

Renee: And it talks about these two people, Nicky and Paolo.

Renee: I don't even remember the details of their experiences because clearly it's not relevant, but they end up dying there.

Renee: And then that's it.

Christine: They had stolen diamonds from some guy, and they were taking those diamonds from Australia to LA to start a life together with just the two of them.

Christine: But on the island, they turned on each other.

Christine: One of them found the diamonds and didn't tell the other one.

Christine: I think Nicky takes Paolo out into the jungle and takes out this poisonous spider.

Christine: If it bites you, you're paralyzed for like eight hours.

Christine: So she takes out the spider, throws it on Paolo.

Christine: She's standing in an infestation of exactly those types of spiders.

Christine: So while Paolo is paralyzed, she gets bit, and she runs, and everyone finds her when she passes out, and she's trying to say that she's paralyzed, but Sawyer and Hurley find her, and what they hear is Paolo lies, so they think Paolo killed her.

Christine: So they end up finding both of the bodies, and they think they're both dead, so they bury them.

Christine: And at the end of the episode, yes, like Nicky's eyes open and you're like, oh my God, they were buried alive, and then we'll never speak about it again.

Maureen: Oh my God, that's so accurate.

Maureen: I can't believe I didn't remember that.

Maureen: I definitely think there were a few things like that, that just went away, and you're like, okay, what happened to that?

Renee: Well, that's more of a question for the writers of were they intending for that to go somewhere?

Renee: Because it felt like it was a closed loop.

Renee: It was a very contained story, which is what Bottle episodes are.

Renee: From start to finish, there's an arc, there's a completion, and you don't need to revisit.

Renee: Why do that?

Renee: If the spiders don't become significant, if it doesn't repeat itself, it is very irrelevant.

Death & the Afterlife

Maureen: Well, I just want to get back to the end.

Maureen: I was sobbing uncontrollably.

Maureen: First off, my father passed away this past year.

Christine: I'm so sorry.

Maureen: And so, you know, in watching it, there is that sort of happy joy of being rekindled with your loved one.

Maureen: So that part was really like good.

Maureen: But it was just so sad, too.

Maureen: And I kind of feel like for me, that's why I went off the deep end.

Maureen: But it is an interesting idea, what happens after we pass.

Maureen: And are you rekindled with everybody that was in your life, that was important, whether it was good or bad?

Renee: From our conversation in season one with Hallie, and previous discussions on mediumship, and where are we getting information as psychics and all that jazz, everything that I've ever heard from reading books from other mediums and talking to different mediums.

Renee: What they say from their account in the spirits they're connecting with is, you just experience a knowing when you're on the other side, you all of a sudden recognize the context, you realize perspective, being open to forgiving, and so you don't even care anymore.

Renee: So if you were connecting with somebody that you had some sort of a beef with, it doesn't even matter.

Renee: It's not relevant.

Maureen: And the opposite of that is you'd want to have those fond thoughts in that moment.

Maureen: It's kind of depressing what you just said.

Renee: What do you mean?

Maureen: Because you imagine that you're going to have some conversation with people or essentially...

Renee: I don't mean that it doesn't mean that you wouldn't have a conversation about it, but you'd be coming from a place without ego.

Renee: So you wouldn't be holding a grudge.

Renee: You would just be in a state of forgiving and connecting and maybe chatting about other stuff, but you're not coming in to hash something out.

Renee: It's an unfinished argument.

Maureen: Is it really going back to a high school reunion?

Renee: I guess, because you're imagining all of a sudden they're coming to you, and they had a totally different perception and perspective, and you're like, oh, it could feel something like that as it leans towards the positive.

Maureen: In high school, people are very petty, and there's this group and that group, and they didn't allow you in, and you feel slighted or whatever.

Maureen: You go back to high school, and these people that you thought didn't know you existed, come walking up to you, and, oh, hi, how are you doing?

Maureen: They're like, huh, what?

Maureen: But how did this happen?

Maureen: For that bully, perceived or real, you have a conversation with, and they're very apologetic.

Renee: These ideas of forgiveness and what really was important about the end of the show, regardless of how somebody perceived, whether they were dead the entire time or not.

Renee: It just came down to the connection where they're in the church at the end, waiting for everyone else to arrive because they are bonded.

Renee: They do have those ties, those experiences.

Renee: Hi, Paulie.

Renee: Is Paulie going to sit down?

Paul: I am.

Maureen: What are your thoughts, honey?

Paul: About the ending?

Renee: Yeah, or anything in the show.

Maureen: Hold on, Christine hasn't finished her boyfriend list.

Renee: Oh no, you didn't even finish your boyfriend list.

Paul: I'm sorry, Christine.

Christine: No, it's okay.

Christine: Just my last boyfriend was Sawyer, Josh Holloway.

Christine: He was obviously, they were all flawed people, which is why they were in this predicament that they were in.

Christine: His growth arc emotionally was just so beautiful, and it doesn't hurt that he's handsome.

Christine: So he was my third boyfriend in the show.

Maureen: Yeah.

Maureen: But if you think about his arc in the beginning, he was just an innocent boy.

Maureen: Unfortunately in life, this is what happens with people.

Maureen: You start out in all good intentions, and then the road takes you, and what he experienced with his, was it his mom or?

Paul: He got dealt a real shitty hand in terms of his parents and his upbringing in his early life.

Paul: So a very emotional, traumatic upbringing.

Jacob and the Man in Black

Maureen: That goes to the point of the two brothers, the one with the blowing.

Renee: Jacob and the man in black.

Maureen: Jacob.

Maureen: When he was visiting them at young age, he visited Sawyer.

Renee: Oh, is that like the kid thing that you were talking about before kids being significant?

Renee: Well, I kind of took that as Jacob is visiting them because they were fated.

Renee: Wasn't the idea that this was the group of candidates, right, to be picked, to be leaders.

Renee: So that's why there was a kid thing.

Renee: And I don't know with Aaron, who's Claire's son slash Kate's-ish son, if he was being set up to be the next person because he was born on the island.

Renee: But obviously Hurley with Ben as a sidekick is in charge now.

Paul: That was the thing.

Paul: You're kind of held in suspense and intrigue with a lot of questions that don't really get answered until the last two or three episodes.

Paul: How did this all happen?

Paul: You don't really realize that Jacob behind the scenes is, is at least orchestrating this, pulling people together for this.

Paul: Jacob can leave the island, but his brother, the man in black cannot.

Paul: He has some powers that the man in black does not.

Paul: Another thing like on that same topic that I thought was really interesting, you really have to watch the thing, the series, I think at least a couple of times to really understand some of these connections.

Paul: When Ben Linus took Locke to go meet Jacob in the cabin, Linus is pretending to talk to Jacob, and he's saying to John Locke, well, can't you see him?

Paul: You realize later that Ben Linus couldn't see him.

Maureen: Yeah, he was faking it.

Paul: He was faking it the whole time.

Paul: And he explains to Locke that he was embarrassed following orders from somebody who's really running the island, and the guy didn't even give him the respect or didn't care enough about him, meet with him in person.

Paul: The second time, and I don't know if you remember who's there.

Christine: Is it Christian?

Paul: It's Christian, it's Claire.

Christine: Yes, that's right, it's Claire.

Paul: And Claire seems almost like a little half-crazed, right?

Paul: She's like smiling and grinning like the Cheshire Cat, like they're in on some little secret.

Paul: And Locke says, are you Jacob?

Paul: His answer was, well, I can speak for him.

Paul: They definitely have a connection beyond just being brothers.

Paul: Like the power of the island somehow also connects them.

Paul: And it's also a hint that the man in black is not entirely evil.

Maureen: Right.

Paul: He's very selfish.

Paul: You know, he has very selfish motives and he manipulates people and he kills people, but he's not entirely evil and he's not beyond doing a good deed.

Paul: Christine, what is the man in black's name?

Christine: Can I Google it?

Maureen: No.

Christine: Did his mother not name him?

Maureen: I don't know why that didn't happen.

Renee: I think it makes sense because it's like he is the shadow of his brother.

Renee: He is the dark to Jacob's light.

Renee: He is the unplanned twin second child.

Renee: And he carries that chip on his shoulder because he doesn't seem to have value, but he is powerful and he is dangerous and it comes from being neglected.

Maureen: Well, all he wanted to do was leave the island.

Maureen: He wanted to explore something beyond where he was.

Renee: Because he wants to be his own person because the island is Jacob's domain.

Renee: So he wants to individualize himself and he or individuate himself and he can't do that when he's always tied to be Jacob's shadow.

Paul: Once Desmond pulled the stone, he becomes mortal and eventually is killed.

Paul: Maybe he could have left the island, not been a nuisance and a problem, spread of evil throughout the rest of the globe.

Paul: That's the foundation of the whole story.

Christine: Jacob and his brother are like a perfect metaphor for the yin and yang, right?

Christine: Like there's good and bad and bad and good.

Christine: I do think the island healed all of them in some way, whether that was mentally or physically.

Christine: Like, also my other question is what happens to Vince the dog?

Paul: If you think about how the series starts, it really starts, begins and ends with Jack.

Christine: Yeah.

Maureen: Did you notice that with the eyes?

Paul: The very opening or one of the opening scenes is Jack on his back on the jungle floor, looking up.

Paul: Like, I think it starts with his eye.

Paul: And then Vincent comes running over to him.

Paul: So Vincent is part of that scene.

Paul: As the plane takes off from the island, he's in the same place on the jungle floor.

Paul: And there's Vincent who comes over and lays down beside him.

Paul: And it starts and ends at the exact same place before they all get together.

Maureen: That was a really great ending.

Christine: I do want to make two points.

Christine: One is I forgot to mention Ian Somerholder is also one of my boyfriends, so I have four, not three in this series.

Paul: Torn between two lovers, are we?

Christine: Four.

Maureen: She has about four or five boyfriends.

Christine: Totally normal.

Daddy Issues Motif

Christine: But I also want to talk about Sun's character development because I really loved her story and how she like found herself and found her voice.

Christine: That made me so happy for her.

Maureen: I love the scene where I think it was a little cardigan or some little button up.

Maureen: He kind of looked at her like, okay, you're showing too much skin kind of thing.

Maureen: And so, you know, she buttoned it up and then he walked away and she unbuttoned it.

Maureen: And I was like, yes!

Maureen: That said so much about who she was as a person as a person.

Paul: The guy who played her father, and I don't know his name, you wouldn't want to say one crossword to this guy.

Paul: So you could see that she grew up in a very repressive home.

Renee: That was another discussion point, like a motif in the show.

Renee: If you think about the number of characters that had really horrible dads in particular, the list is long.

Paul: Yeah, it's true.

Renee: The characters whose lives were woven together because of their dad's horrible behavior, like Jack and John and Sawyer, like all of their lives were intersecting in some ways because of their dads.

Christine: It makes me wonder like what happened to the writers, like who hurt you in a nice way, not in a mean way, but like who hurt you that like this was the theme, one of the themes underlying in Lost.

Christine: And also Kate had a really shitty dad.

Christine: That was like her whole story arc that she...

Maureen: Yeah.

Renee: So then Jin was being set up to continue that cycle.

Christine: Yes.

Renee: He could have also been a bad dad.

Maureen: And the experience on the island changed that.

Renee: Yeah.

Maureen: But let's talk about Hurley.

Maureen: Oh my God.

Paul: Before you do that, right?

Paul: Before you go there, right?

LOST and Titantic

Paul: You're talking about Jin and Sun.

Paul: How sad was it on the submarine?

Paul: She was trapped underwater and he didn't leave her.

Paul: That was a powerful scene.

Paul: Yeah.

Christine: That's why I'm dating him because he's such a good person.

Maureen: He's going to stick with you.

Christine: He'll never leave me.

Maureen: Yeah.

Maureen: You both drowned together, holding hands.

Paul: At least you won't be alone.

Maureen: Yeah.

Maureen: It kind of reminded me of the-

Paul: Sawyer, I don't know.

Paul: Maybe.

Maureen: It reminded me a little bit of the Titanic.

Maureen: I'm not going to lie.

Maureen: And then I thought about it like, oh, which one came first?

Maureen: Which story movie came first?

Renee: Well, Titanic came way first because that was in the s.

Maureen: Was it?

Renee: It was either 1991 or 1997.

Christine: 1997, just because I remember we were old enough to sit by ourselves in the movie theater.

Paul: Okay.

Renee: Yeah, then that makes sense.

Maureen: Wow.

Paul: So I'm sorry, go ahead, honey, with Hurley.

Maureen: So Hurley, his character was great.

Christine: Me amore.

Christine: I love Hurley.

Maureen: Yeah.

Maureen: Funny and nice and sweet and messed up and confused.

Paul: And wins the lottery and has more money than he knows what to do.

Paul: That's hilarious.

Renee: If you think about it from that big perspective, he is a sweet soul and he has this fortune, power, money is power coming to him.

Renee: And then it happens again at the end of the show.

Renee: He then is in control of the island and the power and abilities that it yields.

Renee: So he has a full circle and being in the same exact position where he was chosen, seemingly at random.

Maureen: Did Jack say to him at the end, like it was always going to be you Hurley?

Maureen: I feel like someone said something like that to him.

Paul: I have.

Paul: Well, interesting though how it turned out, Ben had a little bit of a repentance come to Jesus moment.

Christine: Thank God.

Paul: He became his knowledgeable number two.

Maureen: Yeah, that was kind of cute.

LOST Whispers

Paul: Last sort of trivia or question for you.

Paul: Do you know who the Whispers are?

Christine: I always assumed it was like people who passed away, but is that wrong?

Paul: Yes, people who passed away on the island.

Paul: It's like if they died there, their souls were trapped there.

Christine: Oh, my gosh.

Paul: Scary.

Paul: That's a good catch.

Christine: Thank you.

Christine: I didn't think I was going to get it.

Paul: I thought it was part of the smoke monster or like, I didn't really know what it was.

Christine: I also don't like the sound they used for the smoke monster.

Christine: It sounded very mechanical and it was weird.

Christine: I don't know.

Christine: It was very, very weird.

Paul: Like a train whistle or something.

Christine: Yeah, I don't know.

Christine: I didn't think it fit.

Christine: Anyway, I do have to jump at once.

Christine: We have like three more minutes.

Paul: Glad you, yeah, really glad to hear that you watched it and you liked it.

Paul: I don't know anybody who watched it and was like, meh.

Christine: I don't know either.

Renee: I think there are people when it aired because they got frustrated or they bowed out.

Renee: So like, okay, there's some weird supernatural stuff that's happening.

Renee: This isn't what I signed up for.

Renee: But anybody watching it now, I think if you get as a recommendation, you're more aware of associations with the show.

Maureen: Yeah.

Watching LOST with Other People

Maureen: I do think because it's one of those programs that you need to discuss, don't watch it again alone, Christine.

Maureen: Call up one of those boyfriends.

Maureen: I'm sure one of them is single.

Christine: I'm going to call all of them and see if they all want to come over to watch it with me.

Christine: Then I can die happy.

Maureen: That's it.

Christine: I've made it.

Maureen: Invite them on your podcast.

Paul: You have some lingering questions you'd like to go through.

Christine: My lingering questions are, are any of you single and interested?

Paul: I'm really glad you watched it though, Christine, because when I heard this, I'm like, oh, this is really great.

Paul: I mean, we're such fans of the show.

Paul: I think it's like the best thing ever.

Paul: It's just great fun.

Paul: I think the first time I watched it would have been back around  and then I watched it again in .

Paul: And then, of course, we just watched it a third time.

Paul: So for me, it really solidifies some of these things that go, oh, okay, now I get it.

LOST Easter Eggs and Analysis

Renee: And now that you've finished the show, Christine, you can Google as much as you like to see the analysis.

Paul: Gemini.

Renee: And yeah, mom would always say, oh, like Paul's looking up, you know, asking Gemini things about Lost.

Renee: But you can actually look things up now.

Renee: And then if you feel so called to rewatch the show at some point, then you have the extra context.

Renee: Because when mom and I were watching, we were watching as it was airing.

Renee: I was able to see and I'd report back to mom about it.

Renee: Okay, this is what people are saying online.

Renee: People would have YouTube analysis videos or different blog posts or things discussing different theories on the show or Easter eggs.

Renee: There was always Easter eggs.

Renee: People would look back at the end of a season, do an analysis.

Renee: And so I would make note of things.

Renee: And I would tell mom about it or point stuff out based on things that I knew.

Renee: So we were able to live a bunch of that out in real time.

Renee: And now, because we're so many years removed, a couple decades removed from the show starting, it's just there.

Renee: You can pick from it.

Renee: And they have a bunch of lost recap podcasts with analysis.

Renee: And there's a documentary that came out to celebrate the 20th anniversary.

Renee: Have you found a way to watch it?

Renee: I haven't looked, but...

Christine: Now I'm gonna Google where it's on.

Christine: It's on Roku.

Christine: So maybe I will watch it.

Christine: Exactly what I need is another fixation hobby, but I am obsessed with this.

Christine: I'm definitely gonna watch it again.

Christine: It also makes me miss the way TV was done before streaming services, where you have  episodes in a season.

Christine: I just feel like it lets you get into more detailed nuance, a more attached to the characters.

Christine: I don't know, but I will definitely be watching this again.

Christine: Thanks for listening.

Christine: If you'd like to learn more, the resources we used to prepare for this episode are listed in the show notes.

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Renee: And you can reach me, Renee, @_readbyrenee, or connect with both of us via email at synergytosynastry@gmail.com.

Christine: Keep your spirit curious and your aura sparkling.

Renee: We'll see you when the stars next align.

Outro

Renee: What does that look like for you, Christine?

Renee: Can't say your name.

Christine: Wanae-Nae.

Renee: Wanae.

Renee: Wanae.

Renee: Did that make it into an episode?

Renee: I can't remember.

Christine: It did.

Christine: It was when I just couldn't speak and I was like, Wanae.

Christine: Okay.

Christine: Sorry.

Christine: My brain.

Christine: Don't take up and doubt what you manifested in.

Christine: Don't take up and doubt.

Renee: Remember when we first started this podcast and we'd write stuff down and you would literally just read exactly what it said.

Renee: And it's like, no, that was a rough note.

Renee: That's not even a complete thought and there's no transitions.

Christine: I am Ron Burgundy and that's probably why Anchorman is one of my favorite movies.

Christine: I read what's on the teleprompter.

Christine: So, thanks for fixing that.